How long for a patch - The Poll

posted on June 2nd, 2012, 9:38 pm

and if you can't wait, write Dominus mean messages - he likes that.

"hay dominus,
if your next patch is much bigger re-do than any previous one, will it be 4.0.0 as apposed to 3.7.0 or 3.8.5?"



(end really lame maths joke on "mean")

posted on June 3rd, 2012, 2:31 am

I think the current version is awesome as is and like others have said other than donations the devs do this for free and take their time to make an awesome game for us. To be honest we should all be thankful that these guys take the time to do this, But despite that i absolutley cant wait for the next patch/redo/update cause itll be awesome.

relax, when fleetops gets put on steam, then you can start saying they're releasing in valve time.

Do you think itll happen?

posted on June 3rd, 2012, 3:34 am

Nah, Valve has standards.

posted on June 3rd, 2012, 4:19 am

I check this place every now and then, in case anything gets released. It could take five years and I'd be alright with it, but if it does, I hope they make their own game engine.

posted on June 3rd, 2012, 11:21 am

Nah, Valve has standards.

burned 

valve will never let fleetops on steam, it's already reached version 3.

posted on June 3rd, 2012, 1:26 pm

An estimation would help us since we could work on a community patch that balances the current patch in a better way...if we only have to wait some months for the redo this might be no good idea but if not...

posted on June 3rd, 2012, 3:58 pm

You're always welcome to work on a balancing system - however, as I recall, you've been saying this for nearly two years without results, and barely participate in the online community  . If you're serious, you should organize it

posted on June 3rd, 2012, 4:10 pm

I'm not saying this for 2 years...you better do your calculations again...dev apple-polisher

Why should I invest time in something that could be useless in 1 month or less...? Without any information what time frame we are talking about, those patch ideas are useless and noone will invest anything in it. And I don't think you, grand master of asumption, estimation and calculation, can recognize when I'm serious or not.

posted on June 3rd, 2012, 4:28 pm

I thought the next version would come out within the next half year, but after i became criticized that i don't want to wait two years I'm not even sure about that, a community patch would be awesome, to have only 11 matches with Dominion while the last two tournaments thats not even 4% from 300 possible seems not very balanced

The romulan pulse disadvantage against borg wich has been known for a year by now is the second point I'm not happy with, perhaps someone starts a thread to discuss this topic

posted on June 3rd, 2012, 5:08 pm

Two simple points:

1) Why not just be happy with what already exists, rather than whining about how long the next bit is taking? Enjoy what has already been done.

2) If you're not happy with some aspect of the game or balance, why not just sort it for yourself, tweak it until you are happy with it. Why do you expect the Devs to wait on you hand and foot for everything? You are not entitled to dictate what they "should" do.

And Drr, why are you getting offensive toward Dominus? Calm down. There's no need for what you're calling him. He's made a good point.

posted on June 4th, 2012, 6:46 am

Dom has made no point at all cause he doesn't understand what influences the decision whether a community patch is meaningful or not. I explained to him and to you what we need to build one rather than wasting our time in case a ptach is provided within a few weeks (who knows...).

posted on June 4th, 2012, 7:10 am

Dom has made no point at all cause he doesn't understand what influences the decision whether a community patch is meaningful or not. I explained to him and to you what we need to build one rather than wasting our time in case a ptach is provided within a few weeks (who knows...).

So le me get this traght..... 1. you thin that dom, who has been around forever ans delt with 6 generatios of players... doesnt understand somthing? and 2. you say you want to build a patch,, then do it..... not many people have the skill to mod and a lot that do are working on their own projets or not doing it at all..... so if you do do this it will probly be just you working on it mainly.


And like  dom says... if your always waiting for the next patch to start work.... you'll never get anything done.

[bb133]

posted on June 4th, 2012, 8:09 am

Last edited by bb133 on June 4th, 2012, 8:31 am, edited 1 time in total.

I think the issue here is that some of us are under the assumption that Dom is our friend.  This is not true.  Just because Dom used to play lots of games and be very involved in the community (and still is) does not mean that he will therefore unleash the secrets of the game to all of us, as he is one of "us".  For all purposes Dom is a part of the administration of this game and the site, and therefore has enough moral fiber to keep things that are supposed between the fleetops team, between the team.  Otherwise he would not be part of the team. 

Dom is not more likely to release such information than Doca or Optec.  While Dom may act as the "press secretary" or liason between the devs and the community, there's a very well defined line that separates what the devs know, and what we can know, and he follows that.  While it can be frustrating to be kept somewhat in the dark, I always liked being surprised on Christmas morning

posted on June 4th, 2012, 8:45 am

Dom has made no point at all cause he doesn't understand what influences the decision whether a community patch is meaningful or not. I explained to him and to you what we need to build one rather than wasting our time in case a ptach is provided within a few weeks (who knows...).

You've still ignored the rest of my post, as expected.

There is no need for what you called him, and I suggest you apologise.

Also, yeah, YOU saying that HE doesn't understand...? It hasn't crossed your mind that perhaps it's YOU that doesn't understand? Look, if you can't be bothered to do something yourself, for fear of "wasting time"... even though in the process you would be learning to mod yourself, which could even lead to you actually making a productive contribution to the community one day (a mod of your own)... then stop whining like a spoiled child and enjoy the game how it is already. Sure there are bugs, but there's a hell of a lot of stuff in the game already, so just be happy for that and enjoy it.

posted on June 6th, 2012, 6:18 am

Bleh, this blew up a bit since I slept... Let's all step back a bit before the issues get a bit larger.

A new full version of FO will not be released in the next few weeks - we are still in the midst of development, and so if you want to gather players together to think up balancing concepts, I'm sure it won't hurt . What better time to start than the here and now?

We released the last hotfix six months ago, so there was quite a bit of time to gather balancing opinions, come to agreements and start building stuff: and that can still be done now . We of course cannot promise that major FO releases don't occur within a timeframe that negates player-group thinking at that point - we have no set release schedule, and we work as fast as possible to assure a quality product is released.

Now a bit for the down to earth stuff: I'm very often available and willing on Teamspeak, instant messenger or Tunngle to chat about balancing and discuss potential issues people might have. Our balancing takes note of the greater community and we adjust accordingly when necessary. Throwing insults on the forums however has never been very conducive to starting a conversation on a good foot .