The Federation 1.1

posted on March 1st, 2009, 3:20 am

maybe in order to give them late game strength they could get more defensive upgrades. but really im ok with how the fed is

[Actium]

posted on March 1st, 2009, 1:27 pm

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oh well:
a good and well combined fed fleet blows up 2 tavaras in the first 10 secs and the other 3 a bit later, ppl just need to start to note that some special attacks really kick ass. So the late game strength is there. Only problem here is the sovreign class and the fact the fed needs to outnumber the enemy to some degree, which simply doesnt fit to the advanced technology of the federation. Another Problem is the Sovreign class which has a quite sucka special attack and is in the end weaker than a cheaper ExcelsiorII. Also the excelsiorII range is awfull 

[ray320]

posted on March 1st, 2009, 8:13 pm

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yeah i know what you mean, thats what ive been saying about it, even a defiant is porbably better with its special weapon, and its cheaper, to build excelsiors, whenever ive played as feds i have to build alot of ships to take out the enemy, i also dont like the akiras special weapon, it never seems to work, the intrepids special weapon is good, but intrpids get destroyed pretty fast, oh and about the special attacks, its hard to have a combined fleet and use special attacks because theres alot of buttons to push, maybye you could have a special weapons button where every ship uses its special weapon, and that could be clicked when you put them in a fleet, and for the support ships with 3 special weapons you could pre set one to be used in the fleet, that way all of your fleets ships uses there special weapons

posted on March 1st, 2009, 8:28 pm

Actually, there already is a thread on those ideas Ray 
... but so far unfeasible

posted on March 1st, 2009, 9:27 pm

oh really? what is it caled?

posted on March 2nd, 2009, 12:56 am

The Feds don't really need balance. Sovies are underpowered for their size, but I don't use them. They're more of a task group leader than a standalone, so use them appropriately. I agree with the people who note that. The Feds really are designed to primarily field task forces, as opposed to one-on-one duels. Granted, this means you need to do a lot of spamming, but given that FO is designed for epic Trek battles, doesn't that go without saying?

posted on March 2nd, 2009, 1:34 am

Hmmm... can't remember the name right now (even though I made it), but something like "automatic settings for special weapons autonomy" 

posted on March 2nd, 2009, 2:14 am

Starfleet weapons seem more accurate than the other races in the show, FO has removed the ability to have that advantage.

posted on March 2nd, 2009, 2:20 am

yes thats true, either the feeds need a bost in special weaponry and in stats, or the waprin in needs to warpin alot more ships, but idk.... theres alot of realism compntent missing to, such as acuracy of hits, and fredinly fire, i tell you what, if there was freindly fire, all of those phasers and torpedos, would take out as much of there fleet as your own

[tom]

posted on March 2nd, 2009, 11:16 pm

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yes thats true, either the feeds need a bost in special weaponry and in stats ...

The problem is, that Federation is very expensive too, so you will find it difficult to outnumber your enemy with them in late game. And unlike the Romulans, the Fed get not much for their money. The Sovereign costs far to much, for what it can do for example. And save me with this warp in thing. If those weak ships make you victorius, you have been just been lucky...

this is madness, madness i say.
don't want to bring any negative feelings but as far as i agree with some of your ideas in other topics ray (well... in spirit, since i didn't post there) this here is just ... just ... wrong. the feds need more power? guys u know that the feds is short for the federation, right? the 'race' that has cheap economy, cheap base turrets that turn into weapon platforms in a blink of an eye, free warpin ships, defiant with disable weapons sa, cheap fast long weapon range sabre, akira, almost all ships 360 arc of fire, burst torpedo fire, just a few buildings to tech, ... and this is just to begin with. and u want more?   

posted on March 3rd, 2009, 1:17 am

Certain individuals on this forum are broken records and will make 6 threads per patch about the same idea.

Hint, I don't want to see Federation 1.2.

Let me tell you this right away, play against Mark. Or even me. Mark is awesome with the federation and the Akira and I dare say he'll beat you regardless of which race you use.

posted on March 3rd, 2009, 1:34 am

well idk what it is with the akira but it always dies to fast for me usually my canaverals live longer

posted on March 3rd, 2009, 1:56 am

well, i do have another psot around here about a new unique way for the feds to ve in fleet ops, has to do with warp-in so take a look

anyway, to coutner some of what people said, the feds warpin isnt free, it costs credits, and in all reality, the roms are porbably the stronger race,

however one of the main reasons i started this thread, (um i think,... but i cant remeber,lol )
is that the sovy should have more of a kicik, ive seen alot of people say this, and i agree, in all reality, the sovy needs some more power, none of the feds ships seem to have alot of power to them, as it is right now it seems like you mostly need alot of little ships, i for one usually rely on excelsiors, and akiras, cus excelsior is cheaper, but has just as much of a punch as the sovy, and the feds to me seem like a more powerful race with maybye not alot of new powerful ships, but none the less there ships are powerful, and they have very good tactis, and scince and such, the rest of there fleet is made up of older ships, such as miranda, excelsior, ambasador, constelation, centuar, and some others (nebula is semi new), (galaxy, i stil argue is opretty new) anyways those other older ships make up the rest of the fleets(of course they have a bunch of upgrades, and refits) while newer ships, promethius, sovy, akira, steamrunner, excelsior 2, mirnada 2, defiant, make up the high tech new more powerful ships (im not gonn cale intrpid that powerful) but those are the new ships,

anyway, you guys should look at my warpin post, which is a new unique way for the feds to pkay out (like the borg have there unique way) and i think it reflects all of this