The AI or actually VI

posted on February 18th, 2010, 8:36 pm

Okay, I was playing COH and took note of how the VI (what everyone calls an AI, but its not cause it isn't intelligent or self aware thus it is a VI, virtual "programmed" intelligence.). The AI is able to utilize class choice (much like our Avatars) so why not use some of the VI scripts or base programming from COH (company of Heroes) to improve the fleet op VI, thus giving it the ability to chose avatars?

posted on February 18th, 2010, 8:47 pm

well interesting idea but i can tell you dont have progamming experience because it would honestly prolly be easier to rewrite armada 2 the devolpers are working on fixing the AI (or VI) but we are just going to have to wait. Also Mass Effect makes the same distinction. 

posted on February 18th, 2010, 9:04 pm

Didn't someone from the staff drop a note somewhere around here that the AI/VI/whatever will be able to actually use the available avatars? So I guess this problem is already solved or will at least be solved in one of the upcoming patches 

posted on February 18th, 2010, 9:07 pm

Changing and refurbishing a scripted intelligence is much easier than rewriting one, lol. But that being sad, scripts from different games are hardly compatible.

posted on February 18th, 2010, 9:26 pm

Didn't someone from the staff drop a note somewhere around here that the AI/VI/whatever will be able to actually use the available avatars? So I guess this problem is already solved or will at least be solved in one of the upcoming patches 

I believe I read that somewhere on here as well.

posted on February 18th, 2010, 9:29 pm

Oh...and on a side note, I'm fairly certain we're all aware that AI isn't really artificial intelligence.  Its like LED tv's....only stupid people actually believe they are different from an LCD tv (and if you didn't know a true LED tv is an OLED....google is your friend.)....no need to mince words, syllables, or in this case....letters. 

posted on February 18th, 2010, 9:38 pm

yep we are working on AI some improvements should come in the next patches

by the way, its AI, "intelligence" has nothing to do with self awareness  (and self awareness has nothing to do with intelligence, like all those guys on the streets demonstrate >:( )

Artificial intelligence - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

posted on February 19th, 2010, 5:35 am

borg101 there accually is a big difference between LCD and LED tv...

posted on February 19th, 2010, 9:58 am

Oh...and on a side note, I'm fairly certain we're all aware that AI isn't really artificial intelligence.  Its like LED tv's....only stupid people actually believe they are different from an LCD tv (and if you didn't know a true LED tv is an OLED....google is your friend.)....no need to mince words, syllables, or in this case....letters. 

On the contrary, it's only stupid people that don't see the difference. It's a rather large difference 

posted on February 19th, 2010, 11:45 am

its not how big the screen area is. its about the way its designed.

more importantly that LED tv does not need to be constantly polarized where as a LCD does. as well as alot of other important differences which im too lazy to write atm. lol

posted on February 19th, 2010, 5:50 pm

Actually an AI is self aware and intelligent as it has been described as such by not only a few hundred movies, science blogs, and games.

The main difference is that a VI has programmed responses to a great number of problems, where as an AI actually analyzes the data present, makes decision on a course of action, and then implements it. Not only does the AI have the ability to approach an abstract problem and solve it, but an AI also has the ability to reason, where as a VI does not.

Also an AI learns, a VI does not.

posted on February 19th, 2010, 8:31 pm

well, movies are not the best source for scientific knowledge. If we talk about intelligence, we usually mean the stuff "that seperates us from animals". But as i actually study AI at my university, i can tell you, that AI is the correct term for the stuff we are talking about here. just follow the wikipedia link above

The difference you are describing are just different types of AI agents. a program that simply responses to certain actions with scripted predefined answers is a shell. just open your windows command shell and try yourself.

Armada uses a learning, effect-maximizing agent. They decide to attack, they decide to mine and they decide to do strange things. now if thats not intelligence!

The term VI does not exist in science as far as google tells me

posted on February 19th, 2010, 8:47 pm

'intelligence' is a relativistic term anyway. As in, the AI is intelligent compared to a box of rocks.

posted on February 19th, 2010, 9:11 pm

only stupid people actually believe they are different from an LCD tv (and if you didn't know a true LED tv is an OLED....google is your friend.)....no need to mince words, syllables, or in this case....letters. 

Uuh, I am pretty sure there is a difference between a plasma screen and a LED screen.  Then there are the new screens which are OLED (organic light emitting diode if I'm not mistaken ), but like I said these are new, so the old LED screens are not OLED

then again I might be one of those stupid people you were talking about. >:(  Theres really no need to insult, or generalize about something that is beside the point like that. 



Anyway, Plenty of things are called AI, rightly. Though AI in games is just called that because it is a general term, it is still a computer Intelligence, that is Artificially made.  I see no need to change anything or argue about terms that make no difference like these.  They are called AI by the game programmers, so I don't think it really matters.

As for the avatars, the devs have them so they use both at the same time.  I think they could make them randomly pick either one(using code from the warpin replace weapon) but the problem is getting a race to have two seperate build lists.  I really don't think this is possible with the current A2 engine.

posted on February 19th, 2010, 9:23 pm

borg101 there accually is a big difference between LCD and LED tv...

Are you actually talking about a true LED tv or just a regular LED edge lit tv?  Because if you're talking about the latter, no there isn't.  The same components go into them....the only difference is instead of a cold cathode flourescent lighting source, they ("led" television) have the edges or corners (or sometimes the whole backing, but then they're no longer quite as thin) lit with led's.  Nothing in how the television refreshes, syncs frames, displays content, etc changes. 

One of the reasons Samsung is in legal hit with the ETC is because its marketing "tru-LED" tv's when they are not.