Singularity Station and romulan defenses

posted on September 8th, 2010, 10:33 pm

Romulan Turrets are just plain sad, when I see someone build them, I immediately know that person has little online experience.

Late-game? The effectiveness of turrets goes down as the size of a fleet goes up. By the time lategame has come around, you'll need a hell of a lot of turrets to keep anything defended.

The problem with using them cloaked is that the singularity gen won't be cloaked unless a cloaking gen is also built (very very rare, seen it three times online.) Then the fleet just hits the singularity gen and the turrets are almost completely useless. In late game, the enemy will have the numbers to just waltz up to your singularity gen (since turrets just hit the nearest ship, they'll spread out fire horribly) and annihilate it.

If you're using Rom turrets as a late-game turret system, you probably are wasting resources you could've spent on that second Tavara, or you've got enuff dil to make the turrets worth it, in which case you should've just got another yard. Singularity gens are useful next to repair yards so they can recharge those awesome warbird specials.

See someone with a brain, romulans turrents are not strong and using an expensive battery to power them is just unfair and unbalanced, no other race has to do this, a fed warp could take out an expensive singularity using the steam runner (2 if the fed is lucky) and then bye bye turrent def, what has the fed player lost maybe 3 ships that didnt cost a thing , might even leave alive.

posted on September 8th, 2010, 10:49 pm

The 'firepower supremacy' idea? Romulan Turrets are the fastest and cheapest to build and can change from standard to artillery at will. They are not meant to kill fleets, they hold them back until ships arrive, something they and the transmitter are durable enough to do.

posted on September 9th, 2010, 12:21 am

I think the singualrity station was one of the worst additions to fleetops and i HOPE that i wont see it in the next patch, it makes the already weak romulan turrents even more useless, i mean the turrents already cost a fortune compared to other races , do less damage AND you need to get batteries for them for christ sake.

  I decoaked with 5 sangs, 3 vorcha, 2 kebejq, and 5 kvorts on a romulan expansion not expecting any trouble and to my surprise my fleet was pwned by 12 cloaked romulan turrets. They are great as you cant see them making it harder to find a gap in the defensive network...

posted on September 9th, 2010, 1:07 pm

i agree with funny and tyler.

neb: if u are expecting turrets to win a battle on their own you are playing the wrong game lol. turrets arent supposed to win battles. ships are.

the romulan turrets can really delay a fleet for ages. then the rom fleet arrives. they are just useful in a different way than other turrets.

posted on September 9th, 2010, 2:11 pm

I decoaked with 5 sangs, 3 vorcha, 2 kebejq, and 5 kvorts on a romulan expansion not expecting any trouble and to my surprise my fleet was pwned by 12 cloaked romulan turrets. They are great as you cant see them making it harder to find a gap in the defensive network...

How long did the SG survive? How long did the Turrets take to stop fireing? How many ships did you lose?

posted on September 9th, 2010, 2:30 pm

besides the effect of powering the turrets, the Singularity Transmitter also regenerates special energy on nearby friendly Romulan ship, which is a great boon for Romulan gameplay (and also Romulan defense forces. The Leahval or Rhienn for example do well with regenerating energy pools).

That being said, the Romulan gameplay is not layed out around conventional turrets, like the Dominion or the Federation for example. A Romulan player should always deploy an agile force, to act and disturb hostile strategies. A "reactive" strategy pattern, where you let your opponents do the first move, might fit the Federation techtree and ship layout better. If you love turrets and stationary defenses, warmup the Dominion. A Vorta commander just recently promised me a lot of new cool features in this corner for their faction redo. Man this guy was full of joy. Almost frightening to see a laughing Vorta, i can tell you!

posted on September 9th, 2010, 6:28 pm

More turrets?  Yes, please.  Give to me ways to not have games reduced to starcraft II duration!  (3 minute game?  Not fun.)

posted on September 9th, 2010, 6:38 pm

More turrets?  Yes, please.  Give to me ways to not have games reduced to starcraft II duration!  (3 minute game?  Not fun.)

Who have you been playing against?  Even with a K'tinga (or other) rush against the poorest player would still take more than 5 minutes to get to his mining, destroy it, and receive a "gg".  And that really would be against the worst player in the world.

posted on September 9th, 2010, 7:23 pm

See someone with a brain, romulans turrents are not strong and using an expensive battery to power them is just unfair and unbalanced, no other race has to do this, a fed warp could take out an expensive singularity using the steam runner (2 if the fed is lucky) and then bye bye turrent def, what has the fed player lost maybe 3 ships that didnt cost a thing , might even leave alive.

truth,      the cost effectivity of romulan turrets is by far worst.You nearly dont see it in online matches... all other turret types are pretty common,even idiot must see that theres something terribly wrong with it.




This multiple singularity gen + cloak gen + insane amount of rom turrets can be done to be effective but when you actually have luck to survive long enough to finish it.Everything else except this turret defense is destroyed by your oponent becose he have much more money in his fleet.Even if he attacked this turret place,he would win also becose any ship except scouts,klingon builder and newton repair ship is much better hp/dps for price that those rom turrets.Ofcourse I am here just week and dont play online often so I really dont know what I am talking about,in fact these turrets are best in game   

posted on September 9th, 2010, 7:26 pm

even idiot must see that theres something terribly wrong with it.

that's a very arrogant thing to say.

and a very weak argument: "anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot" that wont convince people, in fact it will make people listen to you even less as u come accross as a rude loudmouth.

a lot of people seem to disagree with you, are they all idiots?

Ofcourse I am here just week and dont play online often so I really dont know what I am talking about

correct.

posted on September 9th, 2010, 7:36 pm

that's a very arrogant thing to say.

and a very weak argument: "anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot" that wont convince people, in fact it will make people listen to you even less as u come accross as a rude loudmouth.

a lot of people seem to disagree with you, are they all idiots?

correct.

dont take it too much personaly...     

"anyone who disagrees with me is an idiot" you said that,not me       
Dont try tu use every word aggaist me


I dont think any member of this forum is idiot except myself    Someone agree,someone disagree with me and its same for you too. peace man

posted on September 9th, 2010, 7:38 pm

hey you're the one who said:

even idiot must see that theres something terribly wrong with it.

as if nobody can disagree with your assessment without being an idiot.

but if that was meant as funny, i didnt notice the joke.

[dob]

posted on September 9th, 2010, 7:41 pm

Last edited by dob on September 9th, 2010, 7:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.

hey you're the one who said:
as if nobody can disagree with your assessment without being an idiot.

but if that was meant as funny, i didnt notice the joke.

I wasnt meant like joke but it wasnt meant like insult,yagetmy?   
even idiot must see it = this problem is soo huge that even person with poor perception must be aware of it
forget it,I will try to not type thigs like that anymore



maybe you should make some recorded match aggaist other skilled player where you show us how good these rom turrets can be

posted on September 9th, 2010, 7:43 pm

maybe you should make some recorded match aggaist other skilled player where you show us how good these rom turrets can be

maybe, but thats not my playstyle, i like using a fleet.

posted on September 9th, 2010, 7:45 pm

maybe, but thats not my playstyle, i like using a fleet.

ok,but then you opinion that these turrets are ok  dont have that much bigger value than my opinion