Romulan Intel Center Ideas

posted on May 10th, 2010, 12:19 am

So I was hearing talk of maybe some changes happening to the Intel Center now that the Rommies have a kick-ass use for the cloaking generator cloaking their turrets.  Thought I'd throw in some ideas:

  Dom and I recently discussed the idea of a kind of Tal'Shiar headquarters for the Intel Center.  I'll let him elaborate on his opinion after .


  We thought that it might be very interesting to have an ability on the Intel Center that transferred either a Tal'Shiar Operative, Tal'Shiar Commander, or even an entire Tal'Shiar CREW onto a vessel that granted it either a special ability, a special purpose, or something along those lines.

  We also thought about the idea of maybe being able to create an entire Tal'shiar version of a vessel from scratch with the appropriate research/upgrade/refit, whathaveyou.  For example, I'd LOVE to see a Tal'shiar D'Deridex available that was perhaps a tiny bit more powerful, flexible, or something like that.  Something designed specifically to:

Raid an enemy mining
Destroy a lone ship
Boost an allied fleet
Cause some kind of mischief

  Something like that.  It might be a very neat ability to be able to research or refit some Tal'Shiar specific vessels.  A cap of 3 on D'Deridex might be a very cool thing to have if they became a little more powerful.  I can think of a lot of TNG episodes where the Romulans do sneaky things .

  Another idea for the Intel Center might be the ability to randomly supply a random amount of resources to you at intervals.  I use two examples to illustrate:

  In TNG "Redemption" the Tal'Shiar (I think, or maybe Sela is Imperial Romulan) smuggle supplies covertly into the Klingon Civil War. 

  In a game called "Heroes of Might and Magic" the turn based game, there are a number of silly event things on the map that provide random resources each week.

  Perhaps every 2 or 3 minutes it could cough up a couple hundred di or tri, some supply, or even:


This is my favorite idea: 

Decloak you a Tal'shiar vessel that the Order sends you to watch over your area.  In reality it would be a bit like the SFC's warp-in except that Romulans decloak, not warp .  If it wasn't resources you were getting it could be a Tal'shiar Shrike maybe ... a Shrike with some interesting abilities (as it's alone and can't really tip too much balance ), or a Big D that's there to cause some serious trouble.

  I can think of a lot of neat uses for it that would make the Tal'Shiar themselves feel like a bit more of a shadowy presence than they do now .


  What do you guys think?

posted on May 10th, 2010, 12:30 am

Also, other abilities that could make it in are some infiltration things - perhaps you can use the Tal'Shiar to let you know somehow what your opponent is researching for the next few minutes, or perhaps you can keep track of several ships at once as "pings" on the minimap.

A Tal'Shiar operated ship could get an advanced cloak, or an improved cloaking device at the expense of some stats.

Maybe even you could have random mini-missions through the Intelligence Center. Perhaps you have to "beam off" (by approaching within distance and safely retreating) a spy from an enemy ship and transport it back to your facilities for some reward. Perhaps you are required to destroy a particular ship or such as well. If you fail the tasks, something is deducted from you, if you succeed, maybe you are rewarded in some way.

posted on May 10th, 2010, 12:37 am

Lol I love it! There's just one thing I would add. When the intelligence center gets to double bar status, maybe it could free a special station slot. 

posted on May 10th, 2010, 12:45 am

Or maybe it could get a phase cloak, but that might be better for like a section 31 avatar for feds,

i would think maybe one where a ship could go close to another, and transport special opperatives over, to try to take over the ship could be cool

posted on May 10th, 2010, 1:01 am

Oh Boggz, Dominus. I love your ideas. May the devs have an open ear for that. I especially like the random mini-missions idea. Awsome. 

posted on May 10th, 2010, 9:41 pm

Phase cloak is very Tal Shiar. I mean the romulans already tried to make one, no doubt the Tal Shiar continued research.

[Tyler]

posted on May 10th, 2010, 9:43 pm

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I doubt the Tal Shiar would need to build it, they'd just steal the Federation's plans. Assuming they ever learned about S31, that is.

posted on May 10th, 2010, 9:55 pm

It wouldn't surprise me if the Tal Shiar at least tried to get somebody in S31.

posted on May 10th, 2010, 10:00 pm

I doubt the Tal Shiar would need to build it, they'd just steal the Federation's plans. Assuming they ever learned about S31, that is.

Assuming Pressman is related to S31

posted on May 10th, 2010, 10:05 pm

How many Federation groups would act like he did?

It was implied in the incident that he was involved with a secret project normal Starfleet would never allow. Attempting to justify it with S31's standard progaganda also doesn't help.

posted on May 10th, 2010, 10:09 pm

So then I guess you're ok with the Romulans inventing cloak 100 years before they did in TOS?

[Tyler]

posted on May 10th, 2010, 10:09 pm

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Huh? Bit random...

posted on May 10th, 2010, 10:29 pm

Not random at all: it's one series taking something from another series and calling it the Truth. Section 31 didn't exist in TNG or TOS - it existed in DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise. Cloak didn't exist pre-TOS, until it did when Enterprise said it did. In TNG Pressman's group was just part of SFI which went above its normal line of duty. Doesn't make it Section 31 just because Pressman says he's doing it for the good of the Federation - doesn't Picard say he's doing stuff for the good of the Federation over and over? He's not part of S31 as I recall  . Each show rewrites the history of the other shows, so right now shouldn't we be complaining that there isn't a Tal'Shiar in the first place? After all, Romulus was destroyed, right?

Of course, Romulus isn't destroyed in Fleet Ops, and Section 31 doesn't really exist in Fleet Ops, so it's a moot point.

posted on May 10th, 2010, 10:39 pm

Everything onscreen is canon except Threshold, can't pick your own canon (except Threshold). S31 didn't exist in the real world, but it did in-universe. Who Pressman was working with was implied, and 31 is simply the most fitting group. The fact that Picard also says that doesn't change the fact that it is their favourite propaganda.

The Tal Shiar survived a battle that erased the Obsidion Order from existence, they can survive the death of a single planet in the middle of a large empire of many planets. Romulus wasn't destroyed, but S31 was formed before the split from canon.

Agree to disagree?

posted on May 11th, 2010, 12:09 am

Agree to stay on topic?