New use for a old ship

[ewm90]

posted on January 27th, 2009, 6:43 pm

Last edited by ewm90 on January 27th, 2009, 6:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Yes it's about how things can work - ripping the entire interior of a ship out doesn't. You can add superficial elements, you can do minor changes beneath hull level. Change the superstructure or a large volume of interior and it's cheaper to just build a new ship.
PS.: If your bookcase is so heavy you need a forklift - you should disassemble it and reassemble it inside. Which is to say, apply ingenuity to a problem, not brute force (eg. storing materiel in transporter buffers vs ripping out the interior of a ship)

It only works if the fo team say so, The ships are just hunks of metal flying around space is the configuration of the metal is changed they still will fly around space. I don't see the problem. also the Fo team billet this beautiful Excelsior modal if the Excelsior is scraped there work will be too.

You do what works.

The problem this tread address is the self life for the Excelsior and the fact that the FO teams wont to use them and had billet a modal for them. I wont to help find a way that makes cents for the ailing ship. It there is a resin for there recommission and reproduction I will be ok with that.

posted on January 28th, 2009, 2:21 am

Personally i would hate to see this beautiful ship reduced to a mining barge

posted on January 28th, 2009, 2:26 am

If you have a better idea I am all eyes.

There nothing wrong with mining and maybe it could be used as a armed mobile processing center.

posted on January 28th, 2009, 2:38 am

Sticking it as a Mining ship will be as disgraceful for a ship as it was for the 1st generation of EMH. In this timeline, it could probably make a decent living as a heavy scout, at least.

posted on January 28th, 2009, 2:39 am

Not fast enough, I could see the ship assigned to interior sectors for several years before it is decommissioned (sort of how it is at the moment).

posted on January 28th, 2009, 2:42 am

No not at all. that's not real that your opinion.

"Heavy scout" no need in the game for that. There is for a mobile mining station or heavy mining ship.

 

Sticking it as a Mining ship will be as disgraceful for a ship as it was for the 1st generation of EMH. In this timeline, it could probably make a decent living as a heavy scout, at least.

posted on January 28th, 2009, 2:46 am

No not at all. that's not real that your opinion.

Works both ways.

posted on January 28th, 2009, 4:41 am

"Heavy scout" no need in the game for that. There is for a mobile mining station or heavy mining ship.

 

You are just trying to sugar coat it. What you are saying that the Excelsior class ships, that were at one time the pride of Starfleet should now be converted to a mining barge.

posted on January 28th, 2009, 4:54 am

This thread is like saying you could get an old 1960s sports car, rip out its back seats and turn it into a van to haul goods, for a start you can't just rip out everything in the ship without buggering up its structural integrity, second I bet it requires some sort of containment to haul ore which you would have to ad in the limited space you have already and third like I said you wouldn't rip apart a ship such as an Excelsior it goes against human nature to defile something that way.

posted on January 28th, 2009, 5:16 am

From what I can tell with the Excelsior, the only limits starfleet has found on upgrades in refit is the power supply.  She can't fit a warp core like the Sovereign and Galaxy can.  Which is why I suggested if you want a non-obsolete one, experimental support.  Mounting a 7-of-9 designed Federation/Borg mixed warp core to give it the power output it needs to mount the top-end weapons and shields.

It's inclusion like that would also mean that when you hit 'Experimental' you may get support in the form of the Descent, 'artillery support' in the form of the Avalon, and you also may get a flat-out warship in the form of the test-bed Excelsior.

And from a resources stance, using the readily refit Excelsior for testing out warship parts makes sense.  They're old hulls, losing one doesn't hurt like losing new hulls (if the tech goes terribly wrong and implodes the ship or somesuch) and just like the Oberth, it's simple to do the updates, and until using it for that is rendered completely obsolete, there's no reason to stop.

posted on January 28th, 2009, 6:59 am

'Mounting a 7-of-9 designed Federation/Borg mixed warp core to give it the power output it needs to mount the top-end weapons and shields.'.

Why wouldn't we just do that for all Federation ships? Besides, I think the Excelsior II takes the Excelsior 'spirit' to the limit as it is, and it is a new hull.

They're old hulls, losing one doesn't hurt like losing new hulls (if the tech goes terribly wrong and implodes the ship or somesuch) and just like the Oberth, it's simple to do the updates, and until using it for that is rendered completely obsolete, there's no reason to stop.

For the Federation there is...the cost of the lives of the crew!

posted on January 28th, 2009, 12:04 pm

You do what works.

Yes, and using the excelsior as a normal warp-in ship like the nebula or the galaxy works perfectly well, so there is no need to invent some exotic new purpose for it.

posted on January 28th, 2009, 5:09 pm

For the Federation there is...the cost of the lives of the crew!

Didn't stop them from doing the Pegasus!

posted on January 28th, 2009, 6:45 pm

It just seemed strange to me to have a outadted ship serving with its replasment. I meen I could see this if the fedration was on the brink of claps like dering the Domanon war. I dont think thats how it is now.

Ok you dont like my idea what can you perpose? We have the modal we sould use it but how? The other option is to have it has a map object but I think the Fo team dose not wont that..

posted on January 28th, 2009, 6:57 pm

It is fine as a Warp-In. The Excelsior is a reliable ship that has been around for a century (FO timeline). I can't see Starfleet scrapping what is likely to be at least half their fleet.