Moar refits

posted on April 28th, 2010, 10:31 pm

Think about it like this.

Bob goes and buys a car.  He then takes it to his private garage and modifies it.

Romulan Version...

Commander Sneakyasshole orders a D'deridex from the military.  Upon delivery he takes it to a Tal'Shiar asteroid base in the middle of nowhere, where it's gone over with a fine-tooth comb to make sure there's nothing on it that the military could use to access Tal'Shiar secrets.  Then any systems that the Tal'Shiar have a superior version of are replaced.  Any systems the Tal'Shiar doesn't care about are removed, and either the power redirected somewhere useful (to them) or a new system is installed.  So basically, you could think of every Tal'Shiar vessel as a custom job.

They are also financially ineffecient, because they're full of bleeding edge tech that isn't reasonably cheap to make yet, and a little bit dangerous, because some of the tech is likely still experimental.

The reason the Tal'Shiar would do that is simple.

If Commander Tomalak goes rogue in his D'deridex, and the Senate has to keep it quiet, they'll send the Tal'Shiar to take care of it.  If they can't get an agent onto the ship, then they need to blow it up.  Taking a strike force to do so will raise attention.  But one ship?  That can be done quietly.  But what do you use to blow up the finest mass-production ship in the Star Empire?  Why, an upgunned version of that same ship!

posted on April 28th, 2010, 11:43 pm

Before speculating about the Tal'Shiar and Galea, I'd wait to hear about the storyline. There are very ... particular reasons as to the way things are in the Fleet Ops Universe - especially regarding the Tal'Shiar's current standing

Refits have been proposed before for the D'deridex, and we already got an answer from the Devs too

posted on April 28th, 2010, 11:59 pm

Instead of making me hunt through old threads:  can you remind us what exactly that answer was?

[Njm1983]

posted on April 29th, 2010, 12:42 am

Last edited by Njm1983 on April 29th, 2010, 12:45 am, edited 1 time in total.

Im sure it was no.


Meh, itd be cool to see an avatar that had some of the newer vessels ommitted and the refit varients of the d'deridex in their place.

Caehler - Replaced by Standard Beam D'deridex
D'deridex - PlasmaTorpedo and Beam
Norexan - Replaced by Pulse refit D'deridex

Might be mistaken about the order of the vessels in tech tree and which vessels to be replaced and yeah... lol

Another brief thought: The Norexan had a brown varient in Nemesis that could also be considered a refit of some sort could also be an avatar swap out if it was equipped with say torpedoes instead of pulses.

posted on April 29th, 2010, 12:44 am

Optec said it (a reift) was an interesting idea that would be noted down. He also said that there were plans to give the D'deridex more character

posted on April 29th, 2010, 3:16 am

colors are colors in FO you will notice that all the klingon ships are predominately gray as opposed to green

posted on April 29th, 2010, 8:00 pm

Also, the Norexan "brown texture" was said to be a graphics glitch - but oh well, people have gone on less to say more (thinking of all the Feddie speculation when a ship shoots torps from some nacelle or something. Even the "venture refits" were just reuses, and not intended)

posted on April 29th, 2010, 9:13 pm

It's to be expected really, when the most common concept of canon is 'onscreen = undisputable evidence of *insert fanon here*'

posted on April 29th, 2010, 9:19 pm

i like the brown norexan. not all ships have to be same colour lol. tolerate other colours.

posted on April 29th, 2010, 9:20 pm

I used to have a brown version of the Norexan in my standard Armada2. Never seemed to last very long...

posted on April 29th, 2010, 9:22 pm

in most modded norexans the norexan is kinda weak. most people look at nemesis and see two of them get their arses kicked and think they are weak. but nemesis was kinda weird, the scimitar was stupidly op and wasnt trying to blow up the enterprise

posted on April 29th, 2010, 9:25 pm

I never use mods as the originally are, I mod everything to my own standards. I made mine more believable, the green one was a direct replacement for the Venator and the brown was a more durable version of it.

posted on April 29th, 2010, 10:33 pm

lol it was the brown one that died harder in nemesis i think

i like the idea of the colour being power difference.

posted on April 30th, 2010, 12:12 am

the sneaky romulans couldnt upgrade their ships with anything else but some old rusty iron they got out of a junkyard???

posted on April 30th, 2010, 1:28 am

Brown = Rusty old iron? You are aware that brown is a color, right?