Map objects with unusual features

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 12:11 am

I always hoped that the achelles would be a regular ship

Tyler are you feeling ok because you didnt mention the warship galaxy ?

[Andre27]

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 12:20 am

Last edited by Andre27 on January 22nd, 2012, 12:29 am, edited 1 time in total.

I always hoped that the achelles would be a regular ship

I love that ship, but if the developers would go by the DS9 Dominion war specs it'd be a defiant on steroids. So either a very scaled down version as regular or a scaled down version as map object.

The latter would definitely be a "O **** " experience for the opponent.

Edit: Forgot to add the mirror universe Regency class. Perhaps a bit more firepower than Negh'var and lesser shields/system value. Perhaps cardassian crew so it won't be as resistant to switching owners.

Edit 2:

Not sure if you're intentionally trying to be ironic, but the Cravic ship is from the delta quadrant.

I know. It's a beastly ship though.

Malon Ship - Specs would be an interesting map object too. Some sort of nebula generating special.

This topic is to brainstorm about alternate versions of ships already in or alpha/beta quadrant vessels with unusual specials.

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 12:47 am

Tyler are you feeling ok because you didnt mention the warship galaxy ?

Dear Lord, something must be wrong with me!

Galaxy-X Class: Magnan Phaser Array and External Magnan Beacon. No Hypercharge Magnan Emitter.

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 12:54 am

i'll add one:

a show accurate defiant, with sisko etc. so no ranking possible, it starts at 'vet'. it doesn't need to rank, it can already kill breen battleships in 1 volley. even with weapons subsystem disabled it can still fire probes to blow up the enemy (1 shot on bugs and equivalent). probes also give sensor coverage before they find their target. has romulan 2 second cloak, which is greyed out if romulan players are on the map to see you use it.

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 3:10 am

i'll add one:

a show accurate defiant...

Ok, then i want the show accurate Sovereign, including Picard. One Quantum volley for a sphere, indestructible, ram feature, and one hitting Bugs with multi targeting phaser.

... and ofc. the saucer separation for the Galaxy - including an insane explosion for the drive section, and a saucer somewhere just randomly crashing.



Anyways, the op aka Andre already mentioned the Equinox :/
Would really like to see it with a more or less show accurate (highly boosting speed) special.

And some shuttles. Including the old ones, Danube, Delta Flyer, alien race ones.

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 4:17 am

I'd love to see show accurate Ferengi marauders and maybe also a Suq Jach troopship with very powerful bording crews or something like that.

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 5:30 am

The d'tai class is a result of the angle of the shot. Meaning they look huge but really aren't bigger than the brel. There was a web site that did a study on it using rendered vessels an recreations of the shots from the show, it proved the bird of preys were of the normal size.

Ill see if I can find the website.

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 6:07 am

Tribbles !

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 6:19 am

While we're on about true 'Trek accuracy', the discussion can't be complete without mention of the Echo Papa 607, the head-sized drone that can function as both an anti-personnel weapon and a space-capable weapons platform! Oh, and it can cloak and outgun a Galaxy-class! Remember that we're all about show accuracy, possibly because alcohol has become a factor in out decision-making processes, or possibly out of good humor!

In fact, while we're on about The Arsenal of Freedom, how about adding the USS Lollipop as a Federation uber-dreadnought? It's just been commissioned. It's a good ship!

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 9:59 am

The d'tai class is a result of the angle of the shot. Meaning they look huge but really aren't bigger than the brel. There was a web site that did a study on it using rendered vessels an recreations of the shots from the show, it proved the bird of preys were of the normal size.

Ill see if I can find the website.

Even if it was just a mistake, the d'tai is still a cool idea imo.

[Anonymous]

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 11:33 am

Last edited by Anonymous on January 22nd, 2012, 11:35 am, edited 1 time in total.

The d'tai class is a result of the angle of the shot. Meaning they look huge but really aren't bigger than the brel. There was a web site that did a study on it using rendered vessels an recreations of the shots from the show, it proved the bird of preys were of the normal size.

Ill see if I can find the website.

It's on Ex-Astris Scientia . Ex Astris Scientia - The Bird-of-Prey Size Paradox

I'd like to see the Calamarain. A nebula flying around  .

[Andre27]

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 12:47 pm

Last edited by Andre27 on January 22nd, 2012, 2:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The d'tai class is a result of the angle of the shot. Meaning they look huge but really aren't bigger than the brel. There was a web site that did a study on it using rendered vessels an recreations of the shots from the show, it proved the bird of preys were of the normal size.

Ill see if I can find the website.

That discussion has been around, but as this is a brainstorm session for ships with unusual features i believe the D'tai fits right in.

A new idea:
USS da Vinci (NCC-81623. Saber class. In the SCE novels its assigned to the starfleet corp of engineers. Special: A2 nebula engineering crew.

Edit:
I found this site regarding the Nebula Class
technical

In particular these new mission pods:

Hospital pod: This specialty pod, while not found in wide-spread use, includes the same medical facilities found in large starbases and is equipped to handle several hundred casualties at once.

Habitation/Colony pod: This pod contains a large number of residential quarters, and is sometimes used on long-term missions, or on missions focusing on populating a colony. Depending on configuration, up to 6,000 people can be ferried in the habitation module. With slight modifications, this module can be configured to act as a troop transport, enabling the ship to carry several thousand troops. This module also contains a dozen dedicated transporters, allowing the roughly 5,000 troops to be beamed out within a relatively short amount of time.

Shuttlebay/Hangar pod: This experimental pod includes a large shuttle hangar with the space to hold a significant quantity of fighters and runabouts.

A map object Nebula Class with either a hospital pod (restores nearby crew), Habitation/colony pod (turns the Nebula into a troopship) or Shuttlebay/hangar pod (turning the Nebula into a carrier)

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 6:35 pm

Well the site in question regarding the giant bird of preys, was not ex astris scientia, (though it is a good article). the site used 3d models placed in a 3d environment. they then place them in relative positions matching the screenshots, from the episode. Using various scales IE the 350m and then ginormous scale. In the end they concluded that for the Bird of preys to be huge they would have to been really really far to the rear of the warbirds to appear the size they do.

found it:

Klingon Bird of Prey Paradox | This site has moved to http://www.suricatafx.com

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 6:59 pm

As i said it has been debated before and since the type of starship has never been revealed in TNG it may be a bird of prey placed in an odd angle to appear huge or it can be a completely different class of starship.

Either way it is of no significance. There is a possibility that it is a different class and as such it can be used as a map object.

posted on January 22nd, 2012, 7:22 pm

It wouldn't violate existing Klingon philosophy of re-using existing shapes. The small B'rel and larger K'Vort both share the same basic design, so it wouldn't be a strech for them to have a rare battleship-size Bird of Prey.