Fed Idea

posted on May 31st, 2004, 4:33 am

Even if the saucer/stardrive sep theory were true, i don't think voyager has a distinction between the 2 to be able to seperate. Had the saucer sep idea come along later it might have been considered a 'blue alert manuever' (or they could have invented the term blue alert sooner) which Voyager already has anyway (landing) along with the Defiant (Cloaking) Speaking of which can the Defiant land? I've never seen it or heard of it landing, if it can then it has 2 'blue alert' moves..anyone?

posted on May 31st, 2004, 4:41 am

They said so in the handbook but they never had it do so in an episode. So it has never been confirmed.

posted on May 31st, 2004, 4:44 am

didn't think so, again making it less likely Voyager would have 2 'abilities' it's not special

posted on May 31st, 2004, 5:58 am

Only the Galaxy Class had the ability to separate and reintegrate. An early draft for Star Trek: TMP had the refitted Enterprise separate during a Klingon attack but that part was dropped from the film. Also the Defiant can't land and Voyager doesn't separate, the intrepid class lands on planets so there is no need for saucer sep.

posted on May 31st, 2004, 6:10 am

lol, I think you just summarised what we took to say in about 6 posts, thanks and welcome to the most awesome site on the net

posted on May 31st, 2004, 6:42 am

The Defiant class can land and has landing gear, it has never shown the gear on DS9 tho.

posted on May 31st, 2004, 1:44 pm

It really depends on how you look at it. If you consiter detacting the sauser section by detacting a couple of bulkheads then anyship with a sauser/stardrive can seperate. Voyager can't seperate. It's sauser is too intergrated with the rest of the body. The defaint should beable to land. But I have never seen it land or it's landing gear.

posted on May 31st, 2004, 2:57 pm

Getting back on topic (away from intergalactic war)...

Certain ship scould have the captain's yacht to detatch and re-attatch from the underside of the saucer. I think the soverign and intrepid classes have that ability.

Thanks to uberdan for giving me that idea.

posted on May 31st, 2004, 5:03 pm

It's a good idea. But as I said you can only have one seperation per game. If one ship were to have a captain's yatch which could seperate and reattach then the promethus could not have it's MVAM. That would be the only really problem with that. It would be cool though if you could have both.

posted on May 31st, 2004, 10:01 pm

Ok my bad on the Voyager separation, i looked it up again... it was in the concept information on how it was going to be before they redesigned the ship...
As for separation... I am not sure but in the B5 mod didn't they have several ships being able to merge and separate? (I am not sure about the separate part...)

posted on May 31st, 2004, 10:08 pm

as far as i know its only possible to have one seperation per mod, but i haven't looked at that seperation thing till now. i have a few ideas how it could work.. maybe for a later version

posted on June 3rd, 2004, 2:01 pm

There is a way to have saucer seperation on more than 1 ship an make it usefull. All you do is make it a weapon with an animation so that it just detaches fires on the ship then re-intergrates in 1 go. so when you press the button it does it and you cant control it.

posted on June 3rd, 2004, 2:41 pm

Yeah i also read that technical book which mentioned that the Defiant could land, given a flat bit of space.

The B5A2 mod had a load of merging stuff, like putting telepaths onboard Brakiri and Minbari ships, but no separations. (no more than one, leastways)

It is possible to have MVAM all in a model animation, but it would look weird when the ship is moving separately to it. :S

posted on June 3rd, 2004, 6:50 pm

Well, I agree with TMP (as I usually do ), that IF we put the saucer separation ability for the Galaxy, back into the game, the ship should be more powerful than it is as a whole. It just makes sense that way.

Having the Promtheus' MVAM ability would be nice, but I can live without it, since I like being the Borg most of the time anyway. Federation is my second favorite.

All this talk about the old Enterprise A being able to separate, Voyager separation, Defiant landing gear, is making my head spin , cuz this is all stuff I never knew about until I read this post. And the more I keep hearing about it, the more I just want it to stop! lol. It's making me want it all way to much! If only the Star Trek universe were real. Oh, the possibilities........

posted on June 3rd, 2004, 7:11 pm

it sounds like a swell idea to me!