Enterprise J

[tremolay5]

posted on August 4th, 2010, 6:05 am

Last edited by tremolay5 on August 4th, 2010, 6:07 am, edited 1 time in total.

Has there been any though given to the addition of the Enterprise J featured in an alternate timeline in an episode from Enterprise?? Though it is a future ship, it'd be sick.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(NCC-1701-J)

posted on August 4th, 2010, 11:11 am

With timeline changes, I doubt that ship will exist anymore. Besides, we're probably still around the E or F.

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:03 pm

Yeah, and i would think that the f would be a phalanx class....

maybe promethius actually....

or a descent

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:05 pm

You know, there more I look at that ship, the more it just looks like a slightly modified version of the Enterprise NX-01.......

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:06 pm

the f in famdom is most commonly century class.



i like the century class, its not too silly looking, it looks like something starfleet might very well make years later than nemesis.

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:07 pm

that is a very cool ship, almost looks like a big nova

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:30 pm

The Enterprise J is just fugly... The century class though... thats what I imagine the next enterprise should look like. Really nice Myles.

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:33 pm

Is the Century-Class even considered to be existant in FO?
However... the Enterprise-J looks kinda silly to me. A Descent would be the most believable new Enterprise in FO, because the Prometheus probably is not better than a Sovereign (it's also more of a combat vessel, which makes it a bad choice for the flagship of Starfleet who solve most problems by diplomacy, not by lethal force).

The Century appears a little too small for the flagships tasks as well.

Probably the devs are gonna surprise us a little in that matter. I personally believe the Enterprise-E is still around in FO, although it'll be suffering from aging.

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:37 pm

Really nice Myles.

don't thank me lol, i dont have a clue who actually thought it up.

the century is not canon so fo can include it however and whenever they want

i didnt like the J either.

i dont think the descent should be a ship of exploration, double layer shield, double quantums, it seems a lot like a ship of war. and it isnt new enough, the descent was in the dominion war.

i plain dont like the prometheus at all. all it has is good looks and a fun special that is stupid.

the century isnt small, its larger than a sovvie in most incarnations

i think the ent e could be around by fo time. assuming fo is set at 2400 then the ent e wouldn't have been in service that long. the excel 1 has been in service a lot longer.

[quaddmgtech]

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:38 pm

Last edited by quaddmgtech on August 4th, 2010, 7:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Is the Century-Class even considered to be existant in FO?
However... the Enterprise-J looks kinda silly to me. A Descent would be the most believable new Enterprise in FO, because the Prometheus probably is not better than a Sovereign (it's also more of a combat vessel, which makes it a bad choice for the flagship of Starfleet who solve most problems by diplomacy, not by lethal force).

The Century appears a little too small for the flagships tasks as well.

Probably the devs are gonna surprise us a little in that matter. I personally believe the Enterprise-E is still around in FO, although it'll be suffering from aging.

Federation ships age well due to starfleets tendency to refit their vessels often when new technology becomes available. The sovereign was the most advanced starship at the time when the Enterprise E was commissioned... they big E would likely still be in service especially since it was overhauled heavily to repair the damage after the incident with shinzon.

EDIT: TYPO

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:40 pm

What is a 'flagship task' exactly, and how do they relate to size?

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:42 pm

What is a 'flagship task' exactly, and how do they relate to size?

Presumably, the flagship is larger as the higher capacity allows for it to be more easily adapted to multiple roles such as diplomacy, exploration, rescue and combat.

presumably 

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:45 pm

the f in famdom is most commonly century class.



i like the century class, its not too silly looking, it looks like something starfleet might very well make years later than nemesis.

BEST SHIP EVER!!!  :woot: (That's my wallpaper by the way)
Sorry, I'm biased to this ship. I think it's the best design out of every Federation starship I've seen; I'd pick it as my personal flagship. According to the history that the creator, DJCurtis, invented this ship was put into production at the beginning of the 25th century.

The Enterprise-J, a Monarch (as in butterfly?) class ship I think, on the otherhand just looks stupid.  :x

Is the Century-Class even considered to be existant in FO?
However... the Enterprise-J looks kinda silly to me. A Descent would be the most believable new Enterprise in FO, because the Prometheus probably is not better than a Sovereign (it's also more of a combat vessel, which makes it a bad choice for the flagship of Starfleet who solve most problems by diplomacy, not by lethal force).

The Century appears a little too small for the flagships tasks as well.

Probably the devs are gonna surprise us a little in that matter. I personally believe the Enterprise-E is still around in FO, although it'll be suffering from aging.

Small! The Century! It's longer than a Sovereign (702m vs. 685m). As for the Enterprise-E being old, it was only built in the 2370s, most ships have lifespans of at least 100 years so I doubt aging is an issue.

What is a 'flagship task' exactly, and how do they relate to size?

I would guess that the flagship is supposed to represent the most advanced technology as well as the Federation itself. It would have multiple roles ranging from diplomacy to leading a fleet in battle.

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:47 pm

I think in order to fullfill the flagship role, a ship must be the most sophisticated of the whole fleet. But there are some problems with it:

A ship cant simply be the best in every point. It would make all other classes obsolete. A flagship cant be the best scout, while having artillery abilities and a high speed with superior ecm, super shields and the highest warp speed combined with a very good impulse and maneuverability.

So, you shorten the list of abilities to those, which are most important:
Long range capabilities + high combat values with multi-support abilities (like some shuttles and good replicator systems and good long range sensors for example - all those tiny snippets)

So, you have so to say the best "allrounder" with some specials and here and there experimental tech.

[Tyler]

posted on August 4th, 2010, 7:55 pm

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Pretty much all Starfleet ships were multi-role ships, aside from a few specific ones. If they're the most advanced, the the flagship status shoud have gone from the Ent-D to the Intrepid Class.

Flagship always seems to be used for 1 particular ship rather than a whole class, so having the most experience crew likely means something when picking the flagship.

I still don't see how bigger = better for a Starfleet ship, especially since Starfleet stopped building big ships after the Galaxy and Sovereign.