Discovery class - diplomatic escort / light cruiser
posted on May 5th, 2009, 2:57 pm
Interesting, very blocky in the engineering deck: I did really like the image from your first post 
posted on May 5th, 2009, 4:45 pm
Last edited by Lt.Cdr.White on May 5th, 2009, 8:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Thanks. 
It's not meant to look all that blocky, just a bit.
I tried to reduce it a bit, some parts are just hull plating, not shape.
Updated:
It's not meant to look all that blocky, just a bit.
I tried to reduce it a bit, some parts are just hull plating, not shape.
Updated:
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posted on May 5th, 2009, 5:16 pm
I guess it was just the perspective: I took a longer gander at some of the side shots, and it does look really perrrrty. I wonder if the Team will eventually put it in 
posted on May 5th, 2009, 8:54 pm
I'm very up for this design going in as an "uncommon" unit - it's great! 
After the "normal" model is finished, maybe submit it to A2files set up to go into the stock game. Then if you could make some different textures that conform to the FO standard (glowy nacelles, colour, etc.) I'm sure that would vastly speed up the process!
After the "normal" model is finished, maybe submit it to A2files set up to go into the stock game. Then if you could make some different textures that conform to the FO standard (glowy nacelles, colour, etc.) I'm sure that would vastly speed up the process!
posted on May 5th, 2009, 9:11 pm
posted on May 5th, 2009, 9:13 pm
posted on May 5th, 2009, 9:19 pm
Its a sweet looking little bugger aint it. You should release it on A2 files. I would certainly use it
It is a very high quality ship either way
It is a very high quality ship either way
posted on May 5th, 2009, 9:22 pm
Adm. Zaxxon wrote:Its a sweet looking little bugger aint it. You should release it on A2 files. I would certainly use it
It is a very high quality ship either way
See my post above. There is nothing to release on A2 files, sorry.
posted on May 5th, 2009, 9:28 pm
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Do you have a textured msd3 file, or 3ds or something?!? That would be cool. I(along with others i'm sure) know how to hard point, write odfs and I have the .sod converter. The only thing I don't know how to do,(other than textureing and modeling) is making wireframes and build buttons. You should just ask someone around here to help you.
posted on May 5th, 2009, 9:31 pm
Lt.Cdr.White wrote:Sadly, as I said before in this thread I think, I do not currently possess the tools or the knowledge to make a working Armada II model from this.
*long post*
The only way to see this in game in the future would be someone who already has the knowledge and tools to make the model + texturing. Unfortunately...
Lt.Cdr.White wrote:See my post above. There is nothing to release on A2 files, sorry.
Dammit, just beat you do it! EDIT: See above post. Told you!
I'm sure someone'll be willing to do it - even if they can't model (properly) or texture (well) yet... (long summer coming up
)SisQ wrote:your work is well done, but i think the ship design is ugly and too old. i just don
Discovery Cat got your tongue?
posted on May 5th, 2009, 9:44 pm
Last edited by Lt.Cdr.White on May 5th, 2009, 10:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.
If I could dig out the old IDE hard drive... and if someone knew how to convert Neon 3D files to something usable... perhaps. 
No, currently I don't see a possibility to retrieve the data. It's really sad for me, as I tooled around with Neon 3D for years and all that's left are the old FLIs and FLCs, some stills and a few AVIs.
And that's not only the Discovery (and it's predecessor... which looked a bit like a TOS BoP
).
It's a Warp shuttle, several Star Wars craft (Shuttle, Falcon, TIE, X-Wing, Star Destroyer)...
If that Neon 3D software would have been more standard, I'm sure I'd kept everything. But somehow it got lost during several hardware upgrades.
I just looked some of my Corel Draw files up and it seems the base design of the Discovery class is indeed from 1997. I did several improvements, but I think the last thing I did was texturing the saucer section... should have been no later than 1999.
It's like a blast from the past... you're proud you did something, but at the same time it's depressing you lost most of it. It's like someone died, somehow. Like killing Data and getting B4, really.
Edit:
I might have discovered something. If I find my old HDD, I might be able to retrieve the data in the future. I saw that there are indeed IDE to USB 2.0 adapters out there for under 10€. I may be getting one of those. If the HDD is not broken, that might be the solution to get the data back at least.
No, currently I don't see a possibility to retrieve the data. It's really sad for me, as I tooled around with Neon 3D for years and all that's left are the old FLIs and FLCs, some stills and a few AVIs.
And that's not only the Discovery (and it's predecessor... which looked a bit like a TOS BoP
).It's a Warp shuttle, several Star Wars craft (Shuttle, Falcon, TIE, X-Wing, Star Destroyer)...
If that Neon 3D software would have been more standard, I'm sure I'd kept everything. But somehow it got lost during several hardware upgrades.
I just looked some of my Corel Draw files up and it seems the base design of the Discovery class is indeed from 1997. I did several improvements, but I think the last thing I did was texturing the saucer section... should have been no later than 1999.
It's like a blast from the past... you're proud you did something, but at the same time it's depressing you lost most of it. It's like someone died, somehow.
Like killing Data and getting B4, really.Edit:
I might have discovered something. If I find my old HDD, I might be able to retrieve the data in the future. I saw that there are indeed IDE to USB 2.0 adapters out there for under 10€. I may be getting one of those. If the HDD is not broken, that might be the solution to get the data back at least.
posted on May 5th, 2009, 9:59 pm
posted on May 5th, 2009, 10:03 pm
posted on May 5th, 2009, 10:25 pm
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Thank you again for the nice comments!
I'll try to get the other views ready as soon as possible (as a texture and modelling reference).
The overall tone should be clear looking at the top view. To get the shape right, try the demo video and the picture in this post: Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations - Discovery class - diplomatic escort / light cruiser
The version with the textures saucer section has some modifications to the 3d model that the older version in some parts of the video does not have, the screenshot from the Neon 3D object editor though is the latest one.
Look especially for the detailed look at the underside at 27 seconds in the video with the lower viewport, the deflector dish and the torpedo launcher. This is the only clear shot I have of it.
What I wanted to change is to put the Nacelles further up until there is a clear view of the bussard collectors when looking at the ship from the front.
If you really want to make a model of the ship, feel free to smoothen out areas that I have done poorly due to the missing functions and modelling options of the old software. There should be plenty of room for improvements without sacrificing the general idea of the design.
I'll try to get the other views ready as soon as possible (as a texture and modelling reference).
The overall tone should be clear looking at the top view. To get the shape right, try the demo video and the picture in this post: Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations - Discovery class - diplomatic escort / light cruiser
The version with the textures saucer section has some modifications to the 3d model that the older version in some parts of the video does not have, the screenshot from the Neon 3D object editor though is the latest one.
Look especially for the detailed look at the underside at 27 seconds in the video with the lower viewport, the deflector dish and the torpedo launcher. This is the only clear shot I have of it.
What I wanted to change is to put the Nacelles further up until there is a clear view of the bussard collectors when looking at the ship from the front.
If you really want to make a model of the ship, feel free to smoothen out areas that I have done poorly due to the missing functions and modelling options of the old software. There should be plenty of room for improvements without sacrificing the general idea of the design.
posted on May 5th, 2009, 10:41 pm
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