Discovery class - diplomatic escort / light cruiser
posted on January 29th, 2004, 10:10 pm
Last edited by Lt.Cdr.White on May 5th, 2009, 5:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Sometimes people have strange ideas.
So don't take me serious, but I have to try this, although it's just for fun.
A few minutes ago I had a look at the dedication plaque on my room's wall and thought:
What about an Avatar called Lieutenant Commander White alongside with his ship, the USS Discovery NCC-78230, Discovery-class and the first ship of her class.
Well, I think someday I will have to try to do that myself. But I simply do not have the time. I designed it once, but with no ability to port the ship to a usable format. The only thing I have at the time are a few videos I made a few years ago.
It will stay a dream, but I had to tell you about it.
Dedication plaque: Click to view!
Beauty shot:
Schematics:
Master situation display: Click to view!
Size comparison (real scale) to other federation ships (Discovery = the colored one): Click to view!
The Discovery is about 250m long and originally has a cloaking device because of an alteration of the Treaty of Algeron
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Video images:
So don't take me serious, but I have to try this, although it's just for fun.
A few minutes ago I had a look at the dedication plaque on my room's wall and thought:
What about an Avatar called Lieutenant Commander White alongside with his ship, the USS Discovery NCC-78230, Discovery-class and the first ship of her class.
Well, I think someday I will have to try to do that myself. But I simply do not have the time. I designed it once, but with no ability to port the ship to a usable format. The only thing I have at the time are a few videos I made a few years ago.
It will stay a dream, but I had to tell you about it.
Dedication plaque: Click to view!
Beauty shot:
Schematics:
Master situation display: Click to view!
Size comparison (real scale) to other federation ships (Discovery = the colored one): Click to view!
The Discovery is about 250m long and originally has a cloaking device because of an alteration of the Treaty of Algeron
.Video images:
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posted on January 29th, 2004, 10:15 pm
hehe
perhaps i will do it as a "uncommon stuff" unit if i find some free time
perhaps i will do it as a "uncommon stuff" unit if i find some free time
posted on January 29th, 2004, 10:42 pm
nice ship could be good as a light cruiser .i was thinking if the nova-class will be put in the "uncomman stuff" catagory or "avatars".(uss eqinox) 
could be good as a light cruiser .i was thinking if the nova-class will be put in the "uncomman stuff" catagory or "avatars".(uss eqinox) posted on January 29th, 2004, 10:48 pm
Last edited by Lt.Cdr.White on January 29th, 2004, 10:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
The supposed role is somewhere between Intrepid and Defiant.
The size is almost the same as the Nova-class but it was designed as a kind of "diplomatic" ship that could be used in unsafe environments.
It's armament is 2 pulsephasers (the two strange things on top/front of the saucer section), 1 Quantum-Torpedo launcher (limited amount of torpedos, found at the same place as the main launcher of the Sovereign, see video frame 2, long reload time) and a standard array of phasers (to cover other directions than forward).
The cloaking device would be it's special weapon. But it's no must, as originally only the NCC-78230 got one, not the other Discovery-class ships.
The size is almost the same as the Nova-class but it was designed as a kind of "diplomatic" ship that could be used in unsafe environments.
It's armament is 2 pulsephasers (the two strange things on top/front of the saucer section), 1 Quantum-Torpedo launcher (limited amount of torpedos, found at the same place as the main launcher of the Sovereign, see video frame 2, long reload time) and a standard array of phasers (to cover other directions than forward
).The cloaking device would be it's special weapon. But it's no must, as originally only the NCC-78230 got one, not the other Discovery-class ships.
posted on February 6th, 2004, 1:34 pm
Last edited by Lt.Cdr.White on February 6th, 2004, 3:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I just uploaded a small WMV-Video, a small demo of the USS Discovery.
It's not high quality and the source videos are a few years old. And it's the old version of the Discovery with no real texture and a different window and weapons configuration. But I still like it.
So have fun!
Demo Video (about 593 kb)
(I composed the music myself by the way.)
Edit:
New Version: Demo Video 2 (about 827 kb)
It's not high quality and the source videos are a few years old. And it's the old version of the Discovery with no real texture and a different window and weapons configuration. But I still like it.
So have fun!
Demo Video (about 593 kb)
(I composed the music myself by the way.
)Edit:
New Version: Demo Video 2 (about 827 kb)
posted on February 6th, 2004, 3:12 pm
Last edited by DOCa Cola on February 6th, 2004, 3:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Well done videos. It gave me a little laugh though cause (inteded or not) the music is funny 
i love how you have managed the ship's movement especially when firing, it looks 'natural' and matches most good star trek action episodes
DOCa Cola
i love how you have managed the ship's movement especially when firing, it looks 'natural' and matches most good star trek action episodes
DOCa Cola
posted on February 6th, 2004, 3:16 pm
Last edited by Lt.Cdr.White on February 6th, 2004, 3:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I think it's rather good, if you take into account that all you hear is originally generated by my old SB AWE32.
Here's the high-quality Mp3 version: Maquis/Starfleet Clan Theme
Concerning phasers: They were aimed at an actual dummy object. So it's simply the right phaser array at the right time, aiming at a object while the Discovery flies by.
Gif-Images from some of my videos:
But as I said, the videos are from 2001 if I remember right. Nowadays you can render those things real-time while my old PII 266MHz worked almost an hour on a short 5 sec video or so.
Here's the high-quality Mp3 version: Maquis/Starfleet Clan Theme
Concerning phasers: They were aimed at an actual dummy object. So it's simply the right phaser array at the right time, aiming at a object while the Discovery flies by.
Gif-Images from some of my videos:
But as I said, the videos are from 2001 if I remember right. Nowadays you can render those things real-time while my old PII 266MHz worked almost an hour on a short 5 sec video or so.
posted on February 6th, 2004, 3:17 pm
Last edited by DOCa Cola on February 6th, 2004, 3:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
so it's midi i assume
man, with an orchestra you could do real good themes i like the melody
man, with an orchestra you could do real good themes
i like the melodyposted on February 6th, 2004, 3:46 pm
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posted on February 6th, 2004, 4:10 pm
hehe, yea, i know that theme too
well, it actually fits more to the video but reminds me personally of battlestar galactica or something i really like your theme but the thing is that midi sounds are outdated by now...so you should get a newer/better program and do that theme again to get a more descent sound out of it
DOCa Cola
well, it actually fits more to the video but reminds me personally of battlestar galactica or something
i really like your theme but the thing is that midi sounds are outdated by now...so you should get a newer/better program and do that theme again to get a more descent sound out of itDOCa Cola
posted on February 6th, 2004, 4:19 pm
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I already tried, but I couldn't find any programs that come with good quality sound samples and which simply read the .mid file generating a neat mp3.
I found 1 or 2 programs, but getting a good result would have taken days.
However, this music discussion is destroying the thread. Could we split that or so?
I found 1 or 2 programs, but getting a good result would have taken days.
However, this music discussion is destroying the thread. Could we split that or so?
posted on February 6th, 2004, 4:33 pm
why, the music is very important even when it's a 3d rendering you have begun with it by adding music!!
ok, on the 3d rendering itself, what looks strange is that the ship is warping out of the star trek discovery logo, what i really like is of course the firing scene. the cloaking looks a bit odd cause the ship is not cloaked in one peace but every part's opacity as the warp engine, saucer etc. is overlayed as it is reduced while cloaking, you should find a way to reduce that. the last thing would be the warp out effect is a circle, but in star trek episodes/movies i have seen it's always a flash or something similar (see voyager intro)
DOCa Cola
you have begun with it by adding music!! ok, on the 3d rendering itself, what looks strange is that the ship is warping out of the star trek discovery logo, what i really like is of course the firing scene. the cloaking looks a bit odd cause the ship is not cloaked in one peace but every part's opacity as the warp engine, saucer etc. is overlayed as it is reduced while cloaking, you should find a way to reduce that. the last thing would be the warp out effect is a circle, but in star trek episodes/movies i have seen it's always a flash or something similar (see voyager intro)
DOCa Cola
posted on February 6th, 2004, 5:08 pm
Last edited by Lt.Cdr.White on February 6th, 2004, 6:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Well, this thread is not really about the quality of my old rendering tool or the music. I just wanted to show the Discovery in movement and action, referring to the original thread's topic.
The reason for that strange cloaking effect is the 3d tool. There are a lot of polygons cutting each other as that Object consists of many independent "objects". The cloaking effect is made by altering the lightbreaking values and transparency of all the textures which of course leads to a strange effect as each texture is morphed a little different. But it was the best result that was possible with that old tool.
That tool doesn't know particle effects nor smooth shades or even halo effects around light sources. I had to find a workaround for every single effect (warp flash in the longer sequence = reflection of a light source on a transparent polygon. The "glass plate" effect, as I used to call it).
The "Warp out" from the Discovery logo looks that strange because it's the 2nd half of a longer sequence. I don't want to publish everything I have, because at the moment, all data is on my old computer and I can't do new videos at the moment. Those movies were never meant to be cut together, but it worked quite well. I just used the "Windows Movie Maker" and no top notch video editing tool.
However, I just wanted to show a little more of my ship and how it's overall 3d shape looks like, that's all. The music is merely a gimmick and has nothing to do with the ship itself. It's just that the video would not have been complete without music.
If you read this, you read a lot of text and you don't need new glasses.
Edit: Demo 2 Video slightly altered, new sequence added: Demo Video 2
Edit 2: Another thing on the warp out flash: A different warp drive, a different ship, a different field geometry, a different flash.
Edit 3: To remind everyone again: These videos are old. You have to judge them by the standards of rendering tools from the late 90ies. There will be no new or improved versions in the future. Take them "as is".
The reason for that strange cloaking effect is the 3d tool. There are a lot of polygons cutting each other as that Object consists of many independent "objects". The cloaking effect is made by altering the lightbreaking values and transparency of all the textures which of course leads to a strange effect as each texture is morphed a little different. But it was the best result that was possible with that old tool.
That tool doesn't know particle effects nor smooth shades or even halo effects around light sources. I had to find a workaround for every single effect (warp flash in the longer sequence = reflection of a light source on a transparent polygon. The "glass plate" effect, as I used to call it).
The "Warp out" from the Discovery logo looks that strange because it's the 2nd half of a longer sequence. I don't want to publish everything I have, because at the moment, all data is on my old computer and I can't do new videos at the moment. Those movies were never meant to be cut together, but it worked quite well. I just used the "Windows Movie Maker" and no top notch video editing tool.
However, I just wanted to show a little more of my ship and how it's overall 3d shape looks like, that's all. The music is merely a gimmick and has nothing to do with the ship itself. It's just that the video would not have been complete without music.
If you read this, you read a lot of text and you don't need new glasses.
Edit: Demo 2 Video slightly altered, new sequence added: Demo Video 2
Edit 2: Another thing on the warp out flash: A different warp drive, a different ship, a different field geometry, a different flash.
Edit 3: To remind everyone again: These videos are old. You have to judge them by the standards of rendering tools from the late 90ies. There will be no new or improved versions in the future. Take them "as is".
posted on February 6th, 2004, 6:24 pm
ok then, get your hands on a new 3d rendering tool and use the modern technology to make a stunning video as Dak Phoenix does your scene placement and camera angle is well done , i really like the way you are handling the ships movement, so why don't you make a new video? i really like to see one (and i also want somebody for the fleetops intro video 
)
DOCa Cola
your scene placement and camera angle is well done , i really like the way you are handling the ships movement, so why don't you make a new video? i really like to see one (and i also want somebody for the fleetops intro video )DOCa Cola
posted on February 6th, 2004, 6:29 pm
One word: University.
I wish I had the time to do more of it. But unfortunately I did not pass the acception test for the art college, so my studies concentrate on a completely different topic now.
But perhaps someday... Although I'm mostly stunned by other people's art. Why do new videos, if others are so much better? To become good takes a lot of time and learning. And I need that energy for other things.
So, if someone manages to do a ship resembling the Discovery and usable as a ship for ArmadaII or FO, I would be really glad.
You guys seem to have much more free time than I do.
I wish I had the time to do more of it. But unfortunately I did not pass the acception test for the art college, so my studies concentrate on a completely different topic now.
But perhaps someday... Although I'm mostly stunned by other people's art. Why do new videos, if others are so much better? To become good takes a lot of time and learning. And I need that energy for other things.
So, if someone manages to do a ship resembling the Discovery and usable as a ship for ArmadaII or FO, I would be really glad.
You guys seem to have much more free time than I do.
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