Detectorsz and Beamingsz

posted on December 29th, 2010, 4:30 pm

In my opinion there is absolutely no problem with those captured detectors  . Think of the Probe in Voyager where they just beamed a torpedo on it. The Borg shield system allows for beaming(in some cases), so why don't use their tactics against them? It would be more realistic to make the crews of freighters and mining stations weaker in combat to represent civillians, but if that is done people will call for race specific crews as well...
Stealing a Scout isn't really a game deciding factor.

posted on December 29th, 2010, 4:35 pm

Stealing a Scout isn't really a game deciding factor.

ackshully scouting is important early game. against feds it will tell you whether you want a dodeca (intreps being built) or another scube (mons being built).

with other races scouts they need to have shields dropped, which isnt difficult to do, but it requires you to go try get them, or them to foolishly fly to your starbase.

with the detector it cant get within transporter range of any mining station/yard. to get the good scouting you need to put loads of micro into it to keep it safe. while even the feds just leave a venture nearby at the start without any trouble.

the only issue is the very first scouting where a mining station will do the capture.

posted on December 29th, 2010, 4:42 pm

Stealing a Scout isn't really a game deciding factor.

There is a recorded tourney match that disagrees with you (someone vs sutee i think). However that was a romulan scout as opposed to a borg scout, that was then refited and its graviton ping was used to great effect. And if you are facing either a klingon or romulan opponent and you have are a non cloaking race stealing a scout can be very useful.

posted on December 29th, 2010, 6:48 pm

thats what you get as borg if you attack a ship/Station with way more crew. Managed one time to board a few Scubes from the AI with a Starbase that had damaged Weapons 

posted on December 29th, 2010, 7:26 pm

Attack?  The discussion is about the fact that if you fly your detector too close to an unarmed mining station, not attacking anything, the mining station will capture your detector.

posted on December 29th, 2010, 7:29 pm

Basically as far as I've seen in the traile rit makes scouting as the borg useless, so you may aswell get the devs to replace the detector with an early combat vessel, it'd be more useful than a scout which cant even get in range of the enemy to give any lasting intel imo

posted on December 29th, 2010, 7:31 pm

it is possible to scout with the detector, 80 crew takes several seconds to capture.

but it requires far more micro to keep your detector safe. and makes it harder to get the same intel.