Avatars

posted on March 20th, 2004, 12:50 pm

we will try it.. hopefully everything will work like we want it

posted on March 20th, 2004, 12:55 pm

Now I understand the answer is no and everything but just think I should ask this. So it's understandable not having Shinzon as an Avatar but your going to have a Scimitar as a hireable ship? If so, woud'nt the reasons you gave me Optec for Shinzon not being an Avatar also say no to the Remans as mercenaries?

posted on March 20th, 2004, 1:24 pm

I think the romulans would have gotten the designs from that secret base before blowing it to bits, what romulan general wouldn't want a massive overpowered ship with theyleron technology, a perfect cloak, 27 disruptors, ect. ect. If the scimitar were to be ingame it would need some major balancing. Like needing it's own personal shipyard, or mabey it could be made at the intellegence center. It's just such a dang cool ship.

[KL0K]

posted on March 20th, 2004, 2:04 pm

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my thought was near the same way... but i thought of something like, researching many things at the center like chassis, energy, weapon-energy-balancing, constructionplans, shipyardplanning.. and then buildin a secret yard and then the ship.. so that u choose that avatar, u need all the credits for the way to get that ship..

but yea, that would be and need some majorbalancing of the mod.

.oO( and i would kill to see the futureplans for the mod of optec and co. )

posted on March 20th, 2004, 8:48 pm

yep. if it would only be my decision there won't be reman mercenaries.. in teh capaign there won't be..
but for multiplayer the fans like them.. so..

posted on March 20th, 2004, 8:53 pm

If theres going to be a Scimitar at all I don't also see why Shinzon would have to be dead. I know he was killed in the movie but it seems like everyone can look past that.

The only reasons why I don't think the Romulans would build more of theme is it's not a Romulan design and it has almost no Romulan parts, it's mostly Sona and Breen I think.

posted on March 20th, 2004, 9:06 pm

Shinzon didn't design the scimitar. He was a tactition not a scientist. Reman scientists designed and built the scimitar. It was reman built in a secret yard on remus. They obviously didn't have anyway to get parts from places on the other side of the galaxy. Romulans are always looking into getting more powerful stuff then what they have. They would snatch up the plans for the scimitar in a second. They aren't that prideful after all, rather then just fighting with their ships the federation they cloned picard to secretly infiltrate the federation.

posted on March 20th, 2004, 9:10 pm

It was built with other races parts though. Shinzon ordered the Scimitar to be built and i'm sure he had a hand in it's design, it was his idea to use theyleron radiation i'm sure. Romulans can't simply take their own parts and replace all the Sona and Breen parts with their own simply. Besides they executed all the remans involved so I doubt there was many left to help build a new one if it was possible.

posted on March 20th, 2004, 9:17 pm

I don't recall at any point in the film them saying it was made from any foreign parts. And theres an old saying, give a romulan a schematic, and they'll build it. Give a romulan a ship, and they'll use it. Give a Romulan some romulan ale, and they'll get drunk and spill the beans on whatever they're planning. Okay so I just made that up, though from what I've seen of the romulans the first 2 are true statements. The last may be true, might not either

posted on March 20th, 2004, 9:26 pm

Wait, nm. Both the DITL and Ex Astris Scientia say that it only resembles Breen, Sona and Dominion ships. I quote from DITL

"The Romulans seem unlikely to proceed with class production of the Scimitar as the design stands - the employment of a Thalaron system would likely provoke a quadrant-wide armaments race of horrific scale and scope."

Heres what I think could be done.

"However, there is nothing preventing them from producing a modified design with only conventional weaponry. Should this prove to be the case, Starfleet has much thinking to do."

I now make the motion that we replace the Tavara with the Scimitar...uh class...

posted on March 20th, 2004, 9:40 pm

I resembles, but is not, foreign tech. They had no access to that tech and I doubt the remans that survived the dominion war were allowed to take home weapons and schematics as soveneirs. I don't trust anything DITL says, and never will. I've seen so much bullcrap on that site, it's amazing. Ex Astris Scientia, is a more reliable source, but all this stuff about the ship being made of foreign parts is rediculous and unfounded. Sure it looks breen (actualy I see not resemblence with the breen) sona (okay looks sorta sona like, but not much), and dominion (don't see a resemblence here either, okay a little) tech. But thats mainly cause it was modeled to look evil and scary and detailed. One could say the norexian class doesn't look very romulan either.

posted on March 20th, 2004, 9:44 pm

DITL is pretty cannon, although it's not perfect when it comes to weapons and strength but has alot of good backround info on stuff. I think it would be cool to replace the Tavara with the Scimitar. It would be more powerful, like twice as powerful as the Tavara, no thaleron weapons, same special weapons and 5-6 credits. Anyone think this would be cool?

posted on March 20th, 2004, 9:52 pm

The purpose of the scimitars whole ship design was the theyleron weapon. Without it, the scimitar is just a warbird with grey armor. DITL is not cannon, I've read that stuff, I used to even beleive that crap, but then after thinking about, it didn't make any sense. To put it simply, the scimitars is a giant theyleron generator.

posted on March 20th, 2004, 9:57 pm

The Norexan warbird IS just a warbird with green armor, so is every other Romulan ship, just because the first Scimitar was built with a Thayleron generator, does'nt mean a second should have to follow suit. You also got some problems with DITL but does'nt mean this information isnt good, sounds exactly like what it should sound like. If it said the Federation would start building Scimitars I would agree with you. So far I have'nt seen much bad info with DITL, could you point out whats so bad on it to me?

[Admiral Chemix]

posted on March 20th, 2004, 10:02 pm

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For one their explanation of the breen which is oblivious. Another thing, it's not that there was a theyleron generator onboard the ship. It's that the whole entire ship was designed as a massive theyleron weapon, the wings, the bridge, the core, it's all one gigantic gun. I said scimitar with grey armor. The norexan doesn't look like any previous warbird with the exception of the color, and the bridge. If it was grey and blue instead of green and... green, u'd think it wasn't romulan. Yet it was romulan built