Romulans at the moment

posted on January 21st, 2010, 12:46 am

Well, the romies and domies have completely different ways of fighting - so although the V-13 fulfills the mainline role, the D'deridex does not. The Norexan is more akin to the V-13, but still the Romies rely more on cruisers, while the Dominion relies more on battleships and a horde of smaller vessels.

posted on January 21st, 2010, 1:14 am

and so 'lets give everybody 30min ceasefire and see how is the balance' strikes again. of course if u put 10 v13 vs 10 d'dex dom will win but thats not even close of make any reasonable OP/UP argument.
if u leave dom to settle down on the same number of moons as roms have then u'r obviously not playing roms well. why roms ships r so 'overpriced':

• 2 sec cloak early game
• shield recharge
• other nasty stuff

sentence to keep in mind: 'rom ships dont die so their price is high'

posted on January 21st, 2010, 2:07 am

sentence to keep in mind: 'rom ships dont die so their price is high'

Lol ... well at least you're not SUPPOSED to let them die 

posted on January 21st, 2010, 2:14 am

Why is sensor jammer being bashed upon as much? It's drains almost all of their mana. How many griffins do you need to make useful for numerous battles. 6 per battle is a standard,yes? Anyway I'd use it against AI so don't rage about it;)

posted on January 21st, 2010, 2:15 am

Sensor Jammer is fine now - I'd recommend about 4-6 per battle, if 16 ships is an armada. This way you can keep quite a few ships without weapons

posted on January 21st, 2010, 2:19 am

Firing the jammer all at once?

posted on January 21st, 2010, 3:54 am

I wouldn't recommend that: at most fire two at once, that way you can be sure to jam most of the weapons' systems. If you fire all at once, you just end up with maybe 8 ships, all with weapons down, for a few seconds, rather than a coverage throughout the battle. Of course, if your battle only lasts 5 seconds... 

posted on January 21st, 2010, 10:56 am

My idea to balance the Rommies in lategame. I agree that the d'deridex is overpriced (twice the buck for the punch). I also agree the Rommies have not so much prerequirements to get to the Battleships.

Possible solution: An upgrade like "Serial production" which reduces the costs for all warbirds by 30% and their production time too. The upgrade should cost about 1000dil/100tri and need at least 7minues to research.

Opinions please

posted on January 21st, 2010, 5:43 pm

I think the rommies are really ok for the moment.  The battleships are expensive because they have a 2 second cloak.  On top of being produced early that makes them very hard to completely destroy.

posted on January 21st, 2010, 6:06 pm

My idea to balance the Rommies in lategame. I agree that the d'deridex is overpriced (twice the buck for the punch). I also agree the Rommies have not so much prerequirements to get to the Battleships.

Possible solution: An upgrade like "Serial production" which reduces the costs for all warbirds by 30% and their production time too. The upgrade should cost about 1000dil/100tri and need at least 7minues to research.

Opinions please

My opinion: The D'Deridex is of almost double the size of a federation Galaxy-class and is much more massive and durable. The only reason it could be considered "overprised" is that it's a little outdated if compared to Norexan or Eresis and Cehlaer. It is still a good backbone for romulan battlefleets and the stealth field ability makes up for the high costs.

posted on January 21st, 2010, 6:41 pm

I think you give 2 second cloak too much credit. I agree early game it's great, but late game competent fleets focus fire each other and with it's speed it can't really retreat and cloak in time. It's large, easily targeted and sluggish, once it lowers it's shields..gg. Don't you agree?

posted on January 21st, 2010, 6:45 pm

Once the shields are down, even a Tavara doesn't stand much more if under really heavy fire. Which could be easily said for any other ship that's not a Borg-vessel. 

[Jamess14]

posted on January 21st, 2010, 6:50 pm

Last edited by Jamess14 on January 21st, 2010, 7:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Yes, my point exactly. That's why I don't think too much of it's ability to use that cloak late game to escape. I feel it's chance's are similar to a non cloak ship and it's survival depends on timely use of some other vessels special weapon. So you basically lose 2 V-13's at the price of one D.

posted on January 21st, 2010, 7:00 pm

Well, 2 seconds of cloaking are better than you obviously experienced by now. There are a few reasons for it, I can see three on an instant:

1. 2 seconds is fast. If timed well, especially in the reloading time of torpedoes, the enemy won't get warbirds down soon enough unless they are already beat to hell.

2. Wise use of sensor jammer will keep a good amount of enemies away. If you have a Griffin in the fleet and you seem to be outnumbered; use it and cloak. You will loose less ships by making use of the sensor jammer in ways like that.

3. Stealth field! Yes, you can fight battles easier with it, but also if you want to withdraw, it will help you cloaking unpunished.

Do you still think the cloak is overrated?
Never forget that romulan gameplay is much more focused on the frequent use of all their special abilities. If you have to cloak in order to withdraw, make sure you activate something that gives you cover. Just cloaking is not the true romulan style 

posted on January 21st, 2010, 7:05 pm

We met half way on the special weapons, and you do make a good point. All I think that if was a bit cheaper 850-900 it wouldn't be gamebreaking.