Negh'var

posted on July 15th, 2009, 7:26 pm

Most of the time, Romulan Warbird refers to the D'deridex. Most of the time people talk about the others, I've seen them refered to by name.

posted on July 15th, 2009, 7:29 pm

Well in that case the D'deridex does have a higher offense, but a lower defense if I remember correctly (and a much steaper cost).

posted on July 15th, 2009, 7:59 pm

yes and no the sovereign has an offensive value of 36 wheras the warbird has 35 for helev and 38 for mijural the reason i asked is surely the sovereign should have a higher value than a d'deridex class warbird as it was the most advanced ship in starfleet according to memory alpha it had 18 type 12 phaser arrays 6 torpedo launchers photon and quantum not 6 of each of course regenarative shields and ablative armour

posted on July 15th, 2009, 8:02 pm

I only count 16 Phasers

posted on July 15th, 2009, 8:25 pm

I only count 16 Phasers

yes your right 16 phaser arrays and 5 torpedo tubes after a refit 5 more were added making 16 phaser arrays and 10 torpedo tubes

posted on July 15th, 2009, 8:28 pm

The Sovereign-class starship had several weaponry enhancements over previous starship classes, including quantum torpedoes as well as photon torpedoes, and numerous phaser banks and arrays.

The Sovereign-class employed sixteen phaser arrays at key locations throughout the ship's hull. Seven dorsal phaser arrays were located on the primary hull, one extending around the saucer section, giving it an oval appearance. Six smaller arrays, covered the aft dorsal firing arcs and were located along the aft portion of the saucer section and above the main shuttlebay.

Four ventral phaser arrays were located on the primary hull, extending around in nearly a half circle on both the starboard and port ventral sides of the saucer section. A single phaser array was located along the ventral section of the engineering hull, running perpendicular to the hull. (Star Trek: First Contact, Star Trek: Insurrection)

During the refit, four were added to the trailing edges of her warp nacelle pylons (one dorsal and one ventral for each pylon). (Star Trek Nemesis)


In her original configuration, the Sovereign-class mounted five torpedo launchers. The "main" launcher was located on the ventral portion of the saucer on a turret, and was supplemented by one twin-tube launcher forward and aft at the bottom of the secondary hull.

The refit saw the addition of five more tubes: three on the dorsal saucer section (a single tube facing forward on Deck 3 and a twin-tube launcher facing aft [located above the aft saucer airlock]), and two to the secondary hull, both facing aft – one above and one below the secondary hull shuttlebay. (Star Trek: First Contact, Star Trek Nemesis)

this makes it 20 phaser arrays and 10 torpedo tubes

posted on July 15th, 2009, 9:33 pm

And the Akira has 15 torpedo launchers, and a full squadron of fighters in its forward launch bay, and can make toast, all while being rather small for boasting pretty much any feature the designer could dream up.  And yet in FO it has only 1 phaser and a photon torpedo.
And how did this morph into a "Sovereign is underpowerd" thread again?!

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Here's some great links if you want to read whether or not the Sov needs a boost.  As far as the Negh'var is concerned, I think Deltaflyer wins the Best Answer Award as to how to use Neghs properly (and Klingons in general).  And sure, the Bortas isn't all that against the Borg.  But the K'beajQ, Veqlargh, Sang, Charlargh, Susa, and even Vorcha (i.e., half the Klingon armada) all are, because they're either torpedo ships or have a special torpedo and can be spammed.  So there are plenty of counters for the Borg, and for everyone else there's the Bortas and the MoQbara Station (the MoQbara helps against the Borg as well).  To be honest, I think Martok's Negh'var is still pretty killer for its assigned role as a seige vessel and battleship killer.

posted on July 16th, 2009, 8:50 am

And how did this morph into a "Sovereign is underpowerd" thread again?!

Because it will always come back to that...

posted on July 16th, 2009, 4:37 pm

funny:)

btw about the akira: if i understood the stuff right that i saw about that ship then its maximum 15 tubes or a full squadron of fighters but not both at once. Gues most akiras were in the middle of that 2 extremes.

posted on July 17th, 2009, 1:06 am

not in fo.  I Guess after the war, they were toned down. 

posted on July 19th, 2009, 7:23 pm

how about a mixed tech neghvar with pulse disruptors and a cloaking device?

posted on July 19th, 2009, 10:37 pm

For which race. Doesn't fit the borg, neither does it fit federation nor dominion.

This leaves Romulan and the current klingon mixed tech with Rommies as allies already give pretty interesting units.

[Tyler]

posted on July 20th, 2009, 12:49 am

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From what I know, mixed-tech mostly effects ships around Destroyer or Cruiser level. Battleships don't tend to be effected. The Negh'Var would kinda stick out, since it's counterpart from the other empires don't come with mixed-tech versions.

posted on July 20th, 2009, 12:52 am

How many mixed tech battle ships are there in the first place?  Not many for sure.  Ofcourse the Generix a,d the miranda 2 don't count.  So I think that is not going to happen.

posted on July 20th, 2009, 1:22 am

The mixed tech Defiants and the mixed tech vorcha are the only two ships that are classed as a battleship.  And the Dreadnought of course.