Borg chassis cost in new structure

[Anonymous]

posted on May 21st, 2009, 2:21 am

Last edited by Anonymous on May 21st, 2009, 2:41 am, edited 1 time in total.

At this time there seems to be a spike in the cost of borg ships for 3.06!!!

When i build the construction node i pay 100 dil and 100 tri

then when selecting a chassis I am charged the full cost of the chassis.

The when i select the weapons and start the build, I am shown and charged once more for the chassis as well as the weapon.

in effect i am being charged twice for the chassis.

A good example is the optimize avatar assimilator. I am charged approx 377 dil. then i select 2 assim beams and 1 topr. in standard play the cost for them together is about 250 dil+330 tri.
when i complete selection i am shown 968 dil and 688 tri as my total cost... but on selectin the chassis am already charged 377 dil for the discounted optimize avatar.
i need 968 and 688 to initiate building, and the same is removed from my resource pool on so confirming.
I am now charged 968+377 dil, and 688+208tri+50 supply to complete my assim. this looks weird to me. The average Scube is now at about 800dil ... rather unusually high compared to the first version's costs!
It should be noted that the actual cost of an assim chassis is 468 dil on an assimilator. There seems tobe some double calculation taking place here.

Can the mods please look into and fix this? Borg gameplay is dead at this time.

posted on May 21st, 2009, 2:38 am

Yay! I hate playing against Borg! Now it will be easier! on the brighter side! 

Still waiting on download! 

posted on May 21st, 2009, 2:38 am

>:( grrrrrrr

[RCIX]

posted on May 21st, 2009, 2:57 am

Last edited by RCIX on May 21st, 2009, 3:00 am, edited 1 time in total.

are you SURE that it isnt deducting the proper costs and only telling you what the *total* cost for the ship is including the chassis? My copy of 3.0.6 is still downloading, installing, or waiting for me to play it. Thus i cannot verify any claims i make.

posted on May 21st, 2009, 3:00 am

>:( grrrrrrr

Ha! Payback time! 

[Anonymous]

posted on May 21st, 2009, 3:01 am

Last edited by Anonymous on May 21st, 2009, 3:11 am, edited 1 time in total.

are you SURE that it isnt deducting the proper costs and only telling you what the *total* cost for the ship is including the chassis? My copy of 3.0.6 is still downloading, installing, or waiting for me to play it. Thus i cannot verify any claims i make.

I AM POSITIVE> JUST RECHECKED!!!!
the cost is not just the base chassis, as i gave the break up above. but he chassis is a factor. it is alos adding an additional 200 dil. and doubling the tri.

Actual cost is 377 dil under optimize. that is charged in order to unlock the weapon config screen and accept the chosen chassis.

then when i select my weapons, the cost shown is 968 dil and 688 tri.

If we go by v3.05, and even assimilate costs, the cost of an assimilate chassis is 468 dil.
in the final cost of 968 we see an element of 468 for sure.

I am selecting 1 torp which is dil 200 and 34 tri under the old setup.
I am alos selecting 2 assim beams which were 21 dil and 164 tri under the old setup.

I see final cost after already charging me 377 dil and x tri to unlock the chassis and get to start selectin weapons as 968 dil and 688 tri.

I then necessarily need 968 dil and 688 tri to start building. On confirming the build , thaty same amount is then taken out of my resource pool.
In effect for 1 assimilator under Optimize i pay 377 dil +968 dil +108 tri+688tri - for 1 ASSIM!!

I did not bother to check assimilate as this is a real mood spoiler!  >:(

SCubes are now at about 800 dil and 600 tril... i used to get about 6 of them for that amount in 3.05.

Since there is nothing new being done to borg statsor borg mining this is a rather ridiculous building cost. I cannot build anything, in the time that i now get 1 assim and 3 scubes my enemy has a fleet of akiras or generixes..... borg is now useless!

believe me i would rather be playing now than positing here!

posted on May 21st, 2009, 3:08 am

Ha! Payback time! 

u wait till they fix this..... 

posted on May 21st, 2009, 3:15 am

u wait till they fix this.....  

What is that? Like a couple months? I'll have time to adapt! Resistance is not futile!

posted on May 21st, 2009, 3:16 am

btw - got better news for u -the plasma coil is nerfed too. so ull need to adapt to klings and dominion too. the dominion's new stats will make minced meat of ur norways.

kbeajq was also bumped up a bit so 

posted on May 21st, 2009, 3:17 am

I can confirm this.  Building an Assimilator (2 Assimilator beams and a Nanite Factory) with Directive:  Assimilate costs 1514 dilithium, 1048 tritanium, and 65 supply total, from Collective Uplink to the finished product.  The dilithium cost is about twice what it should be, and maybe 30% more than what it should be for the tritanium for this build.  I think the supply cost is about double of what it was before.  Also, if you finish selecting your modules, and click the arrow near the cancel button and don't click on the picture icon that lets you build the ship, you lose the resources, just like 3.0.5a.

On a side note, the new Borg scouts are as hilarious as they are awesome!  I'm very pleased with how that turned out.  

posted on May 21st, 2009, 4:13 am

btw - got better news for u -the plasma coil is nerfed too. so ull need to adapt to klings and dominion too. the dominion's new stats will make minced meat of ur norways.

kbeajq was also bumped up a bit so 

Something telss me you'll still be scared after I build 10 Norways! 

posted on May 21st, 2009, 4:16 am

Oh by the way! I tried playing as the Borg and could build a cube and a sphere right off the bat. At least it didn't take long! I don't think you'll do just fine in future games with the Borg. They're just different thats all. 

posted on May 21st, 2009, 4:18 am

hmm maybe but it sounds like a bug...

[Optec]

posted on May 21st, 2009, 9:18 am

Last edited by Optec on May 21st, 2009, 9:33 am, edited 1 time in total.

The Borg cost calculation works now different, and the current costs are as intended, but i will take a look at it for 3.0.7

moved to balancing

posted on May 21st, 2009, 9:21 am

 Also, if you finish selecting your modules, and click the arrow near the cancel button and don't click on the picture icon that lets you build the ship, you lose the resources, just like 3.0.5a.

what do you mean? the back button? that shouldn't make you let lose your resources. the resources aren't accounted until you click on the ship image to build the ship..?