Assimilator/Shpere have too much HP

posted on August 31st, 2010, 5:45 pm

Fleet Operations are so much better than original Armada 2 except one thing,gameplay balance.Mainly borg  Sphere & Assimilator.Anytime I play instant action with some ally ( any race except borg ) and same number of opostion borgs,they destroy the ally AI very soon followed with my own destruction.I played many maps with different ally races vs borgs at Hard difficulty levels and there wasnt single time that non borg ally was winning aggainst them.Not single time,on other hand enemy borg kill them all of the 3 ally AI in 20-30 minuts max.The borg overpowered weapons are mainly assimilators  and spheres,when most of thier unfair health is down they just fly away and repair,I have no problem with their ultra stong offensive,ok lets make borg strongest why not,their big ships were strongest in original armada 2 too ( in original version second strongest ship Negh Var, 1200 hull/1200 shield    110dmg phaser/55dmg torpedo vs tactical cube ,1680 Hull/1800 shield  300dmg phasers/180dmg torpedo ) but it was balanced in right way,any race could defeat any other race.This assimilator and sphere is nearly impossible to counter even when borg enemy have half less resources.When I have two dilithium moons and two tritanium ones while AI Hard federation have only one dill and one trit,then I dominate them easly,they practicly dont do nothig,except some counter attack that I deflect easily becose thir ships are balanced right, while with borgs I must try reallly hard to not let them take over my extra moons just becose their pair of assimilators can just come in front of my full upgraded bases and just sit there,assimilating and destroyng everything and after about  4 years and 30 days just slowly return to base becose their HP advantage.I stronlgy recomend fix this problem,I dont play aggainst borg anymore,but I would like to  with peace in my soul that it would not feel like their cheating.

posted on August 31st, 2010, 6:04 pm

Fleet Operations are so much better than original Armada 2 except one thing,gameplay balance.Mainly borg  Sphere & Assimilator.Anytime I play instant action with some ally ( any race except borg ) and same number of opostion borgs,they destroy the ally AI very soon followed with my own destruction.

Sorry, I stopped reading here
FO is balanced for multiplayer mode. So balance is absolutely fine when you play online. The AI doesn't behave like a real player. In fact it kinda cheats especially the Borg AI. So don't worry about that. Maybe you might like to modify the AI buildtime.
But, really, you consider A2 being better balanced out than FO? 
Nah, forget about insta action and join us on Tunngle! You'll have a ton of fun there and you'll see that Spheres and Assims aren't overpowered.

Welcome to the forums! 

posted on August 31st, 2010, 6:24 pm

thanks man


I think FO is better balaned than original Armada 2 but in original there wasnt anything so strikingly unfair like assimilator/shpere.No way I will join you,its clearly trap,I can see that assimilator rush comming


  now seriously,can you give me little info about how to use that Tunngle with FO? I am dowloading it right now 

[Anonymous]

posted on August 31st, 2010, 6:28 pm

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Here you go.Getting Online - The Hitchhiker's Guide to Fleet Operations

The AI in armada is kinda hard to beat because they will build ships for cheaper.  in Multiplayer, you will have a much easier time beating borg because they won't have nerely as many ships.

posted on August 31st, 2010, 6:41 pm

thanks man

You're welcome!

No way I will join you,its clearly trap,I can see that assimilator rush comming

In fact there's a strat called "Assimilator Rush" 
But you will learn to deal even with that one

Great to see another new player joining the community! 

posted on August 31st, 2010, 6:52 pm

You're welcome!


In fact there's a strat called "Assimilator Rush" 
But you will learn to deal even with that one

Great to see another new player joining the community! 

Why developers done this?!  Its sad evil and bad for gameplay,is there any way that I can make AI pay the normal price?

posted on August 31st, 2010, 6:54 pm

LOL... wait until you face a tac cube!!

[Brother Gabriel]

posted on August 31st, 2010, 6:54 pm

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borg ships are a bit to cheap but thats not the problem you encountered.
the problem you had is the damn cheating AI

edit: at one point i agree: the balancing isnt very good actually due the fact that feds get more and more pushed to a spam race. On other hand they are not as overpowered as the orginal A2 akira/steamrunner/sovreign combination

posted on August 31st, 2010, 6:59 pm

You're welcome!


In fact there's a strat called "Assimilator Rush" 
But you will learn to deal even with that one

Great to see another new player joining the community! 

My strategy is to build ultra heavy base defenses,wait about half day and then send 20-30 fully upgraded Breen Battleship to erase opositions,how is this strategy callled? revenge of lazy n00b rush? xD

posted on August 31st, 2010, 7:00 pm

In fact it kinda cheats especially the Borg AI. So don't worry about that.

Kinda?  KINDA?!  Heh.  That thing cheats like a married politician.

posted on August 31st, 2010, 7:01 pm

LOL... wait until you face a tac cube!!

I didnt encountered it,thats truth... does AI build Tac Cubes only on Merciless  difficulty?

posted on August 31st, 2010, 7:03 pm

Kinda?  KINDA?!  Heh.  That thing cheats like a married politician.

posted on August 31st, 2010, 7:13 pm

the AI builds em also at hard, but prolly the borg rolled you down with spheres before they could throw some dices at you.

posted on August 31st, 2010, 7:18 pm

Is it truth that Dominion is weakest race in the game?

posted on August 31st, 2010, 7:19 pm

My strategy is to build ultra heavy base defenses,wait about half day and then send 20-30 fully upgraded Breen Battleship to erase opositions,how is this strategy callled? revenge of lazy n00b rush? xD

Heh, yeah its called Turtling

I didnt encountered it,thats truth... does AI build Tac Cubes only on Merciless  difficulty?

Yep...they build many cubes if you let them... it gets kinda scary.  I think there is a setting where you can change the AI build costs and speed but I don't remember where.