Quick tech to Defiant

posted on November 10th, 2010, 10:09 pm

Errr, Negh'var would be massacred by the Defiant. Not only is it dealing 40% less damage to the Defiant, the Defiant is dealing 24% more damage to the Negh'var 

Weapon overload hits for me pretty consistantly.  That's what does it.  Tough little ship, sure, but even cubes notice when that special hits.

[Tyler]

posted on November 10th, 2010, 10:11 pm

Last edited by Tyler on November 10th, 2010, 10:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

They'll probably also notice the reduced weaponsfire from the Negh'Var even more.

Even if it'll kill an unshielded Defiant level 5 and below in a single hit, you still have to down the shields first and hope you don't get a shot of the bad side of the 80% accuracy.

posted on November 10th, 2010, 10:19 pm

I like 80% accuracy

posted on November 11th, 2010, 2:36 am

Two defiants and a torpedo turret vs three of

and one of

and about half a dozen bugs.  Each attack was about 45 seconds apart and had a maximum of about 3 ships.

Hugh? Turrets can't move, so all they have to do is keep expanding, while keeping you trapped inside your base. And most players won't send 2 bombers and an S-2 alone on a suicide mission to attack your turret like the stupid Ai. Any good dominion player would have way more than enough ships to keep that defiant at bay and stop you from making any more. Game over

posted on November 11th, 2010, 6:29 am

Yeah...more likely to see 2 bombers, 1 s-2, and 6 bugs at once.  And that's a little thin considering what the Dominion can pump out quickly.

posted on November 11th, 2010, 7:00 am

Any good Dominion player would be harassing the enemy's mining ships before a turret platform was even finished being built. 

posted on November 11th, 2010, 2:37 pm

It was against the AI.  I win every time against the AI.  Almost every time!  I figured out where the attacks were coming from and I quickly built up my defenses.  The AI never got past them and I now have complete control over the sector.

posted on November 12th, 2010, 4:48 am

Klin/Rom mixed tech yard > Defiant.

build time of the yard itself, then research time for the mixed tech is your wait time.

There ya go.

:p

posted on November 12th, 2010, 5:52 am

+3min for your first defiant...
The strat does not work. Not even in a 3v3.

posted on November 12th, 2010, 6:02 am

Unless you don't mind your miners being cooked, it works.  Until you run out of resources.  Bottom line, it's a lost cause.

posted on November 12th, 2010, 11:45 am

lol defiant as your first ship will definitely stay an ai only strat.

in real games against humans, in a team game, you MIGHT, maybe be able to get one early-ish. definitely not as your first ship. and even then its risky.

posted on November 13th, 2010, 12:55 am

Aye, only way it works is if you do the mixed tech yard, but dont FOCUS on it, and build other ships.

Back when I did more MP than I do now, I found it was generaly best to let whichever fed was situated the greatest distance from the enemies build them if they had a mixed tech yard avalible.

If a combined rush hit the guy, it could screw things up pretty bad, but if you could get a defiant rush setup, and especily if the defiant player was good/quick at leveling them up, they could end up dishing out some major pain really fast. Really funny when it's pulled off, rush in with a supporting group from allies, and take out a starbase that cant even reutrn fire.

For some reason the people loosing the starbase get really mad if you should all caps in system chat 'I cast magic missle' each time you disable the starbases weapons.

posted on November 13th, 2010, 1:23 am

Interesting.  The base can't return fire!?  How would that be possible?  Whenever a vessel gets near a starbase, the starbase is usually the first unit to start firing.

posted on November 13th, 2010, 1:26 am

The Defiant's special disables weapons 

posted on November 13th, 2010, 1:47 am

In a 2 vs 2 game i played recently i was able to build mostly sabers and warpins till i got tech level 2 up and running then i built akiras and researched tech level 3 and built phalanxs. If someone wanted too they could switch that to defiants.