The Dominion and the Borg

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posted on April 11th, 2009, 9:49 pm
I was just thinking about how we never saw Borg and the Dominion run into each other (and as far as i remember noone from the dom ever mentioned something about the borg or vice versa).

It´s a scary thought : the borg assimilating a cloing facility. Or even better, could the borg assimilate a founder ? They are organic, aren´t they ? I see no problem in assimilating the vorta or the jem´hadar ?

Interesting scenario: the borg attack the dominion, as they are surely worth assimilating. the dominion has real trouble against them so they have to ask the feds for help and information, which could lead to anew understanding, maybe even friendship. I see it before me: Starfleet Changelings, oh my, at least you could have many of them on board of any ship, all they need is a bucket.  :rolleyes:

Any thoughts ?
posted on April 11th, 2009, 10:34 pm
Creepy as heck :thumbsup:
posted on April 11th, 2009, 11:31 pm
Darthashur wrote:
*snip*

Any thoughts ?


Pain. Lots of pain. LOTS.OF.AGONISING.PAIN.
posted on April 12th, 2009, 12:09 am
i dont know if the borg could assimilate fluids like the founders?... but since the assimilation nanites do turn blood black, i guess they could.

but i dont thnk the dominion would be in that much trouble against the borg.

their fleet size is huge. it would be a good tough fight to see whch side would come out on top. especially with the dominion's advanced technology.

plus odo would certainly help them in getting starfleet assistance - at least as far as an exchange of knowledge on teh borg subject.

would be an interesting confrontation for sure  :thumbsup:
posted on April 14th, 2009, 5:27 am
I often wonder why the Borg go for such strange plans, like going back in time to assimilate earth. Why send one Cube ? Why not 100 ? If they could transwarp to almost any place in the galaxy instantly, why are there still Klingons, Romulans and the Feds, they surely "deserve" to be assimilated, but then again, it´s a show, wiping out everyone isn´t going to be very entertaining, at least not very long^^.
posted on April 14th, 2009, 7:37 am
Darthashur wrote: why are there still Klingons, Romulans and the Feds, they surely "deserve" to be assimilated, but then again, it´s a show, wiping out everyone isn´t going to be very entertaining, at least not very long^^.


Well...maybe to some it wouldn't be very entertaining, lol
:lol:
posted on April 14th, 2009, 8:48 am
auxilio ab alto wrote:Well...maybe to some it wouldn't be very entertaining, lol
:lol:


Oh, I dunno....seeing the whole galaxy, plus more, covered in Borg Cubes, who wouldn't want to watch that!  :borg: :borg: :borg:

To be honest, I don't think the Dominion could defeat the Borg in a fight where the Borg were taking it seriously. Against single vessels, sure, but Arturis said that when they attacked his home, they surrounded his system with hundreds of cubes - I think if the Borg were to seriously try to assimilate a target the size of the Dominion or the Federation, they'd send thousands of cubes at least. Also, Dominion tech was said to be only 20 years ahead of the Federation, whereas I've always seen the Borg as being far, far more advanced than that...
posted on April 14th, 2009, 4:12 pm
blazing_gig wrote:Oh, I dunno....seeing the whole galaxy, plus more, covered in Borg Cubes, who wouldn't want to watch that!  :borg: :borg: :borg:


Everyone who is not a borg drone...  :rolleyes:
posted on April 14th, 2009, 4:19 pm
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Darthashur wrote:I often wonder why the Borg go for such strange plans, like going back in time to assimilate earth. Why send one Cube ? Why not 100 ? If they could transwarp to almost any place in the galaxy instantly, why are there still Klingons, Romulans and the Feds, they surely "deserve" to be assimilated, but then again, it´s a show, wiping out everyone isn´t going to be very entertaining, at least not very long^^.


that's what i keep asking. i mean why send i cube. send a fleet and assimilate the alpha quadrant. QED theorem over.
posted on April 14th, 2009, 4:24 pm
blazing_gig wrote:Oh, I dunno....seeing the whole galaxy, plus more, covered in Borg Cubes, who wouldn't want to watch that!  :borg: :borg: :borg:

To be honest, I don't think the Dominion could defeat the Borg in a fight where the Borg were taking it seriously. Against single vessels, sure, but Arturis said that when they attacked his home, they surrounded his system with hundreds of cubes - I think if the Borg were to seriously try to assimilate a target the size of the Dominion or the Federation, they'd send thousands of cubes at least. Also, Dominion tech was said to be only 20 years ahead of the Federation, whereas I've always seen the Borg as being far, far more advanced than that...


it's not always the tech but also the drive.
The jems are willing to give themselves up for the greater good of the Dominion. With the dominon;s already well established bases and shipyardsin the gamma quadrant they far surpass any fed+kling+rom combined fleets.

If anything the dominion's kamakazes of small jems into those larger cubes with thousands of V-13s - rmember on DS9 there were 3200 dominion ships coming thru the wormhole as just an invasion fleet, meaning there were definitely thousands more on regular patrol and duties in the gamma quadrant.

And of course lets not forget the Dreadnoughts that we saw around Cardassia.

They arent going to be capped like in-game :)
posted on April 14th, 2009, 4:56 pm
Borg vs Dominion would be epic :) though Borg probably have an edge, but the Dominion sure would give them problems :)

About the 1 cube assimilate bit, well its a show and they must portrait the Borg as hugely powerful and the feds must survive at all costs, those 2 dont go well together :)
I think thats basically the reason why always send single vessles. IMO they fucked up the Borg with Voyager. They used to be rare but very powerful, now we know that they are almost limitless and with such powerful ships they could pretty much do anything they please, which isnt very entertaining :D
posted on April 14th, 2009, 6:43 pm
Deltaflyer wrote:Everyone who is not a borg drone...  :rolleyes:


...beg to differ -_-

serpicus wrote:it's not always the tech but also the drive.
The jems are willing to give themselves up for the greater good of the Dominion. With the dominon;s already well established bases and shipyardsin the gamma quadrant they far surpass any fed+kling+rom combined fleets.

If anything the dominion's kamakazes of small jems into those larger cubes with thousands of V-13s - rmember on DS9 there were 3200 dominion ships coming thru the wormhole as just an invasion fleet, meaning there were definitely thousands more on regular patrol and duties in the gamma quadrant.

And of course lets not forget the Dreadnoughts that we saw around Cardassia.

They arent going to be capped like in-game :)


True, the Dominion has a lot of ships, and can build them at an impressive rate, however their main emphasis seems to be on the bug ships which, no matter which way you look at it, aren't gonna be able to take a cube out solo - I'd figure (based obviously on my complete knowledge of Trek ship design and power levels, and definately not on random estimation  :shifty:) a group of at least 10-20 would be needed to even slow a cube down, let alone destroy it - the Dreadnoughts, I agree, would stand more of a chance, but remember in the show they were stated as having a few times the firepower of a Galaxy-class, which barely made a dent on the cube in BOBW.

And let's not forget that while the Jem'Hadar are willing to give themselves up for the good of the Dominion, Borg drones are also considered more than expendible - the Queen was perfectly willing to destroy cubes and spheres with hundreds of thousands of drones on just to eliminate the threat of one who had been disconnected from the hive.

I still say that if the Borg seriously invaded the Dominion, that in the long run the Dominion wouldn't stand any more of a chance than the Federation in the same situation (and without Plot Protection - now there's something the Borg CAN'T adapt to  :lol:)

-=B!G=-The Black Baron wrote:they could pretty much do anything they please


Except keep the holodecks working rig-.....no, wait, sorry, that's the Enterprise  :sweatdrop:
posted on April 14th, 2009, 7:19 pm
This sounds like a some good ideas for a Single Player Campain (FO please :innocent: ive been so good :D)
posted on April 14th, 2009, 9:54 pm
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Weeel... Almost all of us... *cough*Ray320*cough*.

Anyway, I would love to see a big final battle of 200,000,000 Dominion Bugs get pwned by 30 Cubes :borg:


Numbers are irrelavent, strength is illogical, and resistance is, and always as been...

[shadow=red,left][glow=red,2,300][font=Verdana]FUTILE. :borg:  :2guns: :2guns: :guns: :assimilate: >:D[/font][/glow][/shadow]
posted on April 15th, 2009, 6:46 am
dude, i dont get the ray 320 refrence, but borg would kill dominion, definently, the only reason the feds havent been asimilated is cus there the subject of the show
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