Star Trek Infinite Space
What's your favourite episode? How is romulan ale brewed? - Star Trek in general :-)
posted on September 25th, 2011, 5:56 pm
Last edited by USNDiesel on September 25th, 2011, 5:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Star Trek is in a tricky spot. They pumped out so many series in a row that they burned people out on it. The reboot movie has been popular (maybe not all appreciate it, however it is keeping Star Trek from withering away and being forgotten), and games still appear occasionally. We need to just be happy games are coming out still, STO, Infinite Space, and so forth. Maybe you don't like the games, they won't appeal to everyone. But at least it is keeping Star Trek going for now. Plus, not everyone likes the same play style. I love strategy games like Armada...but you gotta please everyone. If the developers are slow, who cares, let them work at their own pace. They don't have nearly the capital behind them that STO and Cryptic do and look at how slow it takes them to update. 1 or 2 updates a year.
We all appreciate the modding community. Actually, we love it. HOWEVER, modders are not going to keep Star Trek popular and in the mainstream. No matter how successful Fleet Ops or any mod is...it isn't going to spawn a new television series or give Star Trek a future. It appeals to too small of a population. These developers however keep Star Trek popping up in our culture. Look at Farscape, Babylon 5, and other sci-fi of the past. They have faded into memory. These new games and develops are good for us. This means extending the shelf life of the Star Trek universe. So lets scale back the tension on some of these posts. STAR TREK LIVES.
We all appreciate the modding community. Actually, we love it. HOWEVER, modders are not going to keep Star Trek popular and in the mainstream. No matter how successful Fleet Ops or any mod is...it isn't going to spawn a new television series or give Star Trek a future. It appeals to too small of a population. These developers however keep Star Trek popping up in our culture. Look at Farscape, Babylon 5, and other sci-fi of the past. They have faded into memory. These new games and develops are good for us. This means extending the shelf life of the Star Trek universe. So lets scale back the tension on some of these posts. STAR TREK LIVES.
posted on September 26th, 2011, 3:07 am
USNDiesel wrote:Why are you all getting so heated over this. Just be happy that Star Trek is still alive and still has enough of a fan base to have a new game made.
Unless the game is quality, or at least has a stable modable engine, I'd rather have no game.
Better to have quality old stuff instead of crap that just drags down the expectations.
USNDiesel wrote:I swear half of the people on here specifically look for a fight.
Welcome to fleetops.net
USNDiesel wrote:Don't worry about the developers
Crap in, crap out, if they get away with keeping making sub standard fare, we're less and less likely to get an actually good game, and where will the fanbase be then ?
USNDiesel wrote:Star Trek is in a tricky spot. They pumped out so many series in a row that they burned people out on it.
No, they relaxed their quality controls immensely was the problem. DS9 had small issues, mostly confusion from the ILM people on scale issues.
Voyager started out with decent quality control, but that was reduced as the series went on, focusing on seven of boobs and easily killed borg cubes, and Enterprise... well they just decided to re-boot star trek without calling it a reboot.
And don't get me started on the recent movies... from Data's 'death with a chance of spock style rebirth' to that supernova that goes faster than light from J.J. Abrams...
QUALITY does not burn people out. Substandard fare presented as quality DOES burn people out/
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USNDiesel wrote: The reboot movie has been popular
That was more due to the fact that it was not only star trek, but a reboot of a major franchise, and the actors DID at least do a good job. It also is an insult to what made TOS great.
USNDiesel wrote:(maybe not all appreciate it, however it is keeping Star Trek from withering away and being forgotten)
Oh right, like trek got forgotten between the end of TOS and the start of TMP/TNG
With TNG we got a quality series after a lack of trek... and it did well enough to get more spinoffs.
The problem now, is lack of quality.
USNDiesel wrote:and games still appear occasionally.
And like half of them are crap.
USNDiesel wrote: We need to just be happy games are coming out still, STO, Infinite Space, and so forth.
Infinite space is still not out, and STO was a joke.
Horrible gameplay, cartoonish ship design, horrible story, etc.
It sucks so bad they went and made it free to play.
USNDiesel wrote:Plus, not everyone likes the same play style. I love strategy games like Armada...but you gotta please everyone.
And thus they pump out random crap so as to appease the masses that want cursing, sex, and guys walking away from explosions. It may be entertaining, but it wont be star trek.
USNDiesel wrote: If the developers are slow, who cares, let them work at their own pace. They don't have nearly the capital behind them that STO and Cryptic do and look at how slow it takes them to update. 1 or 2 updates a year.
Agreed in this case, any non-commerical project like flops should be EXPECTED to go slow.
USNDiesel wrote:We all appreciate the modding community. Actually, we love it. HOWEVER, modders are not going to keep Star Trek popular and in the mainstream.
But it'll do more than consistent crap offical releases.
USNDiesel wrote: No matter how successful Fleet Ops or any mod is...it isn't going to spawn a new television series or give Star Trek a future.
And you think stuff that gets largely panned by fanbases will too ?
USNDiesel wrote: It appeals to too small of a population.
Yeah, that was the whole point of star trek. It was more cerebral than generic action series #46, or generic detective show #24.
USNDiesel wrote: These developers however keep Star Trek popping up in our culture. Look at Farscape, Babylon 5, and other sci-fi of the past. They have faded into memory.
Actually they could very easily be the NEXT star trek. You seem to be forgetting that Star Trek TOS was CANCELED after three seasons, despite being popular. Farscape ? Canceled, despite being popular. Babylon 5 ? Purposely put in a timeslot that it would do bad in, did good irregardless, and it's spinoff was purposely aired with it's episodes out of order in the end.
USNDiesel wrote: So lets scale back the tension on some of these posts. STAR TREK LIVES.
I think star trek would rather die than live as a zombie like collection of crap.
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