fleet ops and star trek xi story (spoliers from the movie so

[admiral max]

posted on May 6th, 2009, 3:26 pm

Last edited by admiral max on May 6th, 2009, 4:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.

(SPOILER ALERT) will the fleetops story tie in with the new star trek movei oher games have done the same i mean with the destruction of romulus and remus by the hobus star.

posted on May 6th, 2009, 4:05 pm

should have put (spoiler) as the first part as on the main home screen it didnt show and now ive just seen that and it sucks... thanks... must erase from memory...

posted on May 6th, 2009, 4:53 pm

done i do apologise i have not actually seen the movie yet but i story of the nemesis time line is on the star trek online website

[Lt.Cdr.White]

posted on May 7th, 2009, 10:37 am

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Well, (SPOILER ALERT):


Seen the movie yesterday at the Pre-Premiere in Germany.

When does FO take place? Because the Romulus star will go nova in 2397 (if I'm right).

They had very strange ways to use Stardates. Sounded as if they were using somthing like "Stardate YYYY.XX". I was a bit upset about that...

Another SPOILER:

The timeline is altered right at the start of the movie. So in fact, many things may be the same, but essentially, were in another parallel timeline that might not lead to the future we know.

However, the thing about the romulan sun going nova is in our known timeline and could be part of FO, but only if it's set 2397 or later.

posted on May 7th, 2009, 10:47 am

Fleet Operations takes place in the first decades of the 25th century, so around 2395 and 2417. As Nemesis and events from Voyager, the new movie will not be taken into acount for the Fleet Operations storyline, but we might mention the events to have some recall
You could see the Fleet Operations universe as a prallel universe that starts somewhere after the Dominion war. A complete storyline will be posted as soon as i have enough free time. Sadly thats quite some stuff to write

posted on May 7th, 2009, 11:00 am

to be honest FO doesn't have to actually tie in to it at all as by that Romulan mining ship coming back in time and killing Kirks dad completely changed the future we know and have... so to be fair FO can be in its own parallel universe seperate from all of them...

on a seperate note i thought that movie was wicked in the sense it made star trek alot more accessible to todays generation, myself included rather than just hardcore trekkies... i liked how everything wasnt perfect for a change and things did go wrong...

posted on May 7th, 2009, 11:30 am

Well, I really liked the film, yes. Especially because of the characters, the humor and appropriate actors.

Scotty, Bones, Kirk, Spock... they are esentially the same persons. And Star Trek with humor was always best, Star Trek VI and IX still being my favourites.

However, some changes to the timeline left me sitting there like after Nemesis, hoping for a sequel to correct something.

I simply wished they would be going back in time in the next movie to correct things... but that ain't gonna happen. So after all, we have a parallel timeline with most things we loved and knew being potentially erased.

That's what I don't like. Sometimes reboots are cool... but not for things you've grown up with.

Without the timeline change, the new movie would get 100% approval by me. But the fact everything might be different in the future... makes you just not feel at home in that universe.

Also what's up with those Star Warsy phaser effects? I couldn't even see what's happening in the battle scenes. Everything full of light and explosions. Well, must be something about modern action movies.

And the fact that I can't really remember how the computer readouts looked like irritates me... after all I've been designing LCARS displays for over 15 years now. Hell, why can't I remember anything but glowing and overlaying video displays but no real shapes except blue lines everywhere?

Well, the new readouts are hardly ergonomic, I presume.

posted on May 7th, 2009, 3:44 pm

I mainly loved it because it was character driven and not driven by science or weird technobable with loads of made up funky names... The film was all about the characters and how they came to be who they are and i think that makes it more accessible to whole new set of people which is exactly what needed to happen for the franchise to survive, out with the old and in with the new for a new younger generation...

for example my brother cant stand Star Trek, he went and saw this with me yesterday and he loved it, he found it very funny (which it was), he loved the more industrial and earthly feel to the vessel and the fact everything was not perfect and not everything went right.

In terms of the timeline, i actually prefer the fact their rewriting it in a parallel time line, it means they dont have to worry about everything being annoyiingly cannon and harcore trekkies bashing it for its lack of cannon, im all for bye bye cannon...

This also means you can love the old star trek whilst loving the new one is they in essence to totally sets of history...

and thirdly this had to be done so they could start a fresh and cut away from well bascially of stink that follows the latest star treks... Its a relaunch of a franchise and the ebst way to do that is to try and pull away form the reent films (which did flop to be fair, though i did like certian parts of Nemesis, but it was a pretty crap story and so was insurrection and first contact... Just had good special effects)...

all in all i can't wait for the next one as he critics have given this top ratings, its had great advertising so should hopefully do well...

P.S. did anybody else love the musical score and what was in my opinion a very morbid opening for a star trek film...

[Lt.Cdr.White]

posted on May 7th, 2009, 4:03 pm

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The opening was extremely well done, it was emotionally extremely touching and full of action at the same time. Breathtaking would be a word to describe it.

Oh, and yes, I'm planning to get the soundtrack, especially the rythms kept up with the action and put emphasis on the momentum the film gained in those passages. Those scenes together with the music were like a rollercoaster ride and reminded me of sitting in a space simulator being in the middle of it.

Well, for me the new timeline just needs at least another movie to accept it completely.
At the moment, it's more of an experiment, like an alternative timeline created in an episode just to be repaired.

But once the "new" franchise gets going, I'll be all into it, I think.

I like how they updated the uniform design while keeping it almost the same... some very original ideas where put into this new movie, indeed.


Edit: Concerning needing another movie: The same goes for Nemesis. The director destroyed Nemesis by cutting everything Star Trek out and being proud of it. But, had there been another movie showing B4 developing into a new Data because most of Datas memory was intact, then Nemesis would have a place in my ST universe. Just like TWOK needed TSFS to be complete. Killing Data just was the little bit more needed to make Nemesis completely horrible... but even without that, it would have been too much generic action Sci-Fi and not Star Trek.

But Insurrection is pure Roddenberry-Star Trek. And for being this, I love it. Ranged under the top 2 ST movies for me together with ST VI.

posted on May 7th, 2009, 4:35 pm

i think they did well to keep a lot of the litte trek things in their but updated. Your dead right about the trek uniforms, but even the detail they went with on the ships, if you look at the weapon pods you can see which one was for shooting phaser burst but also which one was for destroying incoming missles...

And if i wont such a man i would of had a tear in my eye before he said i love you and died.

Well i think this movie was created purely to relaunch it and they obviously have plans for a second that will just iron everything out... I'm even tempted to see it again because their was so much action going on it was hard to appreciate it all...

another good thing, when those ships were destroyed they didnt just vaporise in explosions there was parts scattered all over like it really would be and would collide with a ship...

even the transporters were great as they had to lock on over time and ya had to stay still...

Nemesis really was tooo generic and at the sametime, its like there were so many things you'd have to ask your common sense to ignore, like flying into the nebula knowing it knocks out communications and so on...

OK Insurrection i'll give another go just for you... But you cant excuse first contact...

posted on May 7th, 2009, 4:52 pm

Wats wrong with, First contact?!?!? IMO it is probably the best ST movie. 

posted on May 7th, 2009, 5:36 pm

Don't diss First Contact. That was the first Star Trek movie I ever saw.

AND IT WAZ EPIC.

-Delta

posted on May 7th, 2009, 5:38 pm

same here.  First Contact was way better than insurrection.  Insurrection is just another long TNG episode.

posted on May 7th, 2009, 5:38 pm

plus in nemesis it was not a nebula. it was a rift that spanned sectors.
if one is trying to escape, one would have to make a judgment call as to whether to divert from the shortest course to the fleet to "maintain communications" or to go through.

Plus how were they to know the scimitar could fire while cloaked. dont see any oddity there. just bad human judgment based on oversight.

posted on May 7th, 2009, 5:55 pm

im on about the part when they realise they have gone in to a rift that knocks out communicaiton, it wasnt about the rotue, in the movie they realise after they have gone in and discuss it, then look shocked... then roll on more fighting...