Enterprise And The Future Of Star Trek

posted on February 28th, 2005, 12:20 am

I agree, if you want them to continue, best start paying $100 a day, NOW!!!

posted on March 3rd, 2005, 10:26 pm

well i don't know if it is on here yet, but anyomous contributers used 3,000,000 dollars and UPN and Paramount shut up and quickly put the show back on

posted on March 8th, 2005, 12:36 am

[font=Optima]Well well well. It's all come down to the heated arguments of fans. I tend enjoy watching people talk about things like this in such a heated manner.

But what I enjoy more is taking part in it

My opinion really, Enterprise wasn't ALL that bad. The timeline issues are true, as far as bringing the Borg and Romulans into a few episodes. Kirk was the first person to meet the Romulans face to face, and luckily they didn't violate that aspect of the timeline, but still, I don't think they should've had such a huge appearance. Voyager wasn't all that great as well, but it was ALOT better than Enterprise. They seem to try too hard in Enterprise. And I'm not used to seeing Bakula in a ST series. The only thing I used to watch him in was Quantum Leap, and he was better in that then he's doing in ENT.

As far as a better Sci-Fi series than ST, Babylon 5 was SO MUCH better than recent ST. Don't get me wrong, I will, and always will be a trekkie, but when B5 was on, the plots and stories of that show were such a step up from what they are doing to ST lately. Rick Berman truely is defiling Roddenberry's idea of what ST should have been. But truely, you find us all asking, do WE know any better than Berman? What was Roddenberry's TRUE idea in creating TOS, and what did he want this to become?[/font]

posted on March 8th, 2005, 12:40 am

It's still a sad thing Gene died.

But some of the people who were hardcore trekkies, there are some among us on this forum , I think that they would know better than Berman.

posted on March 8th, 2005, 1:07 am

I am going to kidnap berman, and persuade (take a finger from) him to do better next time

posted on March 8th, 2005, 5:45 am

Berman is trying to make Star Trek his creation. He's part of it, but it is NOT his. It is Gene Roddenberry's creation as well as OURS since we loyal Star Trek fans watch this stuff and keep it alive. WE ARE STAR TREK, and Rick Berman is NOT Star Trek!

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posted on March 10th, 2005, 12:52 am

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the origaonal resons why star trek was pupler in the beginings in the usa are:

it mached what pepal wher feeling by maching polatics of the times. you cood drow a line to difrant politacl ishows and drow a line to the ishows on star trek. the kinons wher the rushons the fedration was america and i am not sher how the romulans wher we did not see much of tham eny whay at the begining.

pepal in the 60s wher looking for some thing new to kinda exsepe thare lives star trek ofered tham that relatay.

all that teck ans siyfiy stuff was new on tv no one had takeing sinesin fishtion and put it on tv be for so all that hi teck stuff was fasanating.


the tick naw is to figer out what pepal wont and to make star trek that.

to day in the usa we have a hug resore for new vowers if only we can grab it. thare are more young teenagers than ever be for at one time. if we can figer out what thay wont and tap it we cood realy bring it back.

i think enterpise was a atimpt at grabing tham but thay did it rong.

i think star trak need to tak a realy realy close look at the feeling on the new teens and what thay wont and what thay are scard off.

posted on March 10th, 2005, 1:12 am

pepal in the 60s wher looking for some thing new to kinda exsepe thare lives star trek ofered tham that relatay.

all that teck ans siyfiy stuff was new on tv no one had takeing sinesin fishtion and put it on tv be for so all that hi teck stuff was fasanating.

Then Star Wars came along, and people haden't seen something like lightsabers used before and SW was a bit funner.

I think Enterprise should of gone into production with a fresh director. It would of been alot better.

posted on March 10th, 2005, 7:00 am

and i am not sher how the romulans wher we did not see much of tham eny whay at the begining.

I think that the Romulans were equivalent to the Japanese even though the Romulans were meant to be the ultimate bad guys, but a limited budget forced Roddenberry to create the Klingons who were cheaper.

I should also state that I would agree with USS Legacy on the matter of directors. Berman just finished Voyager months earlier and DS9 at least one year earlier. He must have conditioned himself to thinking in terms of Voyager and DS9 to be fair.

posted on March 15th, 2005, 2:34 am

what Star Trek needs it what truly made it Star Trek in the first place;
large numbers of satires
more philosophical, moral situations


TOS in my opinion was one of the best series of ST and it did not have any space battles instead it had the aformentions aspects

TV these day has become hollow vilence, don't get me wrong violence is fine but it needs to have meaning needs to have a satire; if one looks through TOS one sees a satire at the very least every other episode this is what star trek SHOULD be not "cool we are in a space ship with nice special effects and digital broadcasting"

posted on March 15th, 2005, 3:04 am

I love space battles. It's the annoying standoffs that piss me off, torpedos loaded, phasers armed, but no firing

posted on March 15th, 2005, 5:16 am

That's what happens when you have drunken idiots like Berman ruining stuff around. When Roddenberry did TNG, there was some satire around which was really nice and reminiscent of TOS. It's too bad that TOS was cut off the way it was. That's due to too many people watching Lost in Space, Gunsmoke (sorry dad ^_^ ), and Bonanza (I mean Banana ). Back then they used a general rating system where we use a demographic rating system.

posted on March 15th, 2005, 6:54 am

what Star Trek needs it what truly made it Star Trek in the first place;
large numbers of satires
more philosophical, moral situations


TOS in my opinion was one of the best series of ST and it did not have any space battles instead it had the aformentions aspects

TV these day has become hollow vilence, don't get me wrong violence is fine but it needs to have meaning needs to have a satire; if one looks through TOS one sees a satire at the very least every other episode this is what star trek SHOULD be not "cool we are in a space ship with nice special effects and digital broadcasting"

i think some thing difrant about the vilesins to day is its on a gradeos leval.

in the days on TOS is was on a smaler leval and thare mane gole was fiting off a singal gorn ship or sutgals in side the ship.

to day in enterpise we are fiting a hole race tring to distoy earth or traviling thow time. enterprise nx 01 is no enterpise ncc 1701.

posted on March 15th, 2005, 5:14 pm

That seems logical. Back then, Star Trek was reminiscent of the cowboy series that existed then. Although Paramount produced the series, NBC was also resposible for production, and they made series such as The Wild Wild West, a cowboy series from the 60's.

posted on March 16th, 2005, 12:58 am

i like shooting stuff...lol


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no really...what was this topic about?oh yeah...future of star trek...how about the FUTURE??? not fhking enterprise. and no fhking time travel, or borg, or genocidal species from another dimension.and no picard. he scares me. have you ever noticed how everytime he fhking stands up he pulls his uniform?and how can it be a UNIform if some are different colors?how did i get so off topic ?see?SEE!IT IS ALL PICARDS FAULT!!!!picard r teh sux.