Ambassador Class vs Venture Refit

[Tyler]

posted on December 5th, 2010, 3:02 pm

Last edited by Tyler on December 5th, 2010, 3:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.

no they werent, they didnt have their whole fleet, only some of the fleet chased from cardassian space. they couldnt mobilise their entire invasion fleet that fast to chase the defiant. if they had waited they would have had larger numbers. also they believed the weapons were fakes, not real. example of their stupidity.

Wrong way around, they hadn't attacked Cardassia yet.

i forgot to mention how they were waging a mini war with the feds before the dominion war and were actually doing rather well. it never seemed like the klingons were putting their all into it, but they were still taking planet after planet from starfleet. losses on the federation side were dozens of ships, which isnt really much compared to hundreds in the dominion war. so its most likely that this mini war was exactly that, the klingons weren't really trying to invade properly. the martok changeling's comments that the federation could fight back against this invasion actually supports my claim that this mini invasion wasnt using a lot of ships. if both sides had committed their whole fleets like the dominion wanted, then they would have both been weakened a lot, which couldnt happen as the dominion war had to happen lol.

I didn't, and I also mentioned what the Martok Founder said about Starfleet pushing the Klingons back after they got their act together with Klingon losses increasing.

as you say, just after praxis, they lost a lot in that incident and still had enough strength to win against the feds.

I also mentioned Starfleet not being prepared for war due to the peace. There would have been a decade or two between the Enterprise-A and Enterprise-C, plently of time for a (likely) Federation-assited rebuild of the Empire and the Federation to settle into the peace.

i disagree that surprise would win here. surprise would help you take a small area. but starships can be mobilised fast. it wouldnt take long for all of starfleet to respond and rally together. the surprise would wear off after the first couple planets fell.

Surprise doesn't win, a good hit weakens the enemy and throws them off-balance. It is quite difficult to push back, if they can cause enough damage to the right targets fast enough. It's the same as what happens because of unexpected, early attacks in FO games; people can't build up and react properly.

the romulans are strong, they are a military empire, and prone to paranoia, they probably spend a large amount of their resources on military efforts. the d'deridex was rarely seen in combat so we have no idea whether it was powerful or not. it is bigger than a galaxy class, and probably at least as powerful. we never saw a direct conflict between the feds and romulans, but the fact that the romulans avoided war with the feds indicates that they are of roughly similar strength (rom and fed) then the klingons defeated the romulans and in all good things their victory wasnt said to be pyrrhic.

Bigger is rarely better, and it's usable space is actually smaller due to the massive hole in the centre. The D'deridex is meant to look threatening. It also depends on how powerful the races they conquered are. You don't have to be strong to conquer defenceless races, just stronger than them.

the federation may have its leader's office in paris, but they arent french, they wouldnt surrender so cowardly. actually in this case they may have sacrificed ds9 if bajor didnt care any more.

Surrender isn't the same as keeping people happy and keeping people happy to prevent pointless conflict isn't cowardly. Bajor could have even been safer with the Klingon defending them; violent races are less likely to be pestered by the Cardasians.

starfleet always wins in trek because they have to, or all the main characters die and the show ends lol. thats why all the death for the federation happens in alternate timelines. if u take away all their plot armour, the federation is a peaceful entity that cant spend a large proportion of their resources on building gunz. and i really think that military empires would beat them in a real war.

starfleet isnt weak either, but they are just not warmongers. its not their game.

The Federation is peaceful, but their ships are unusually heavily armed for peacelovers and crewed by creative races with very violent and bloody histories. Many of which (like Humans) with a well known destructive side rivaling Klingons and quite capable of acting on them.

Hand to hand is the Klingons most skilled area, space combat is where Starfleet shines (we've all seen Starfleet Security in action).

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Yeah, pretty large walls too. I've seen bigger, though.

posted on December 5th, 2010, 3:59 pm

Only until the Negh'Var scanned the station. The klingons knew exactly what they were up against.

not true, it was after the neggie did the scan, they were trying to figure out whether the weapons existed or not. the fact that they attacked would indicate that they thought sisko was bluffing like in the first episode. in fact the technobabble they used for the fake weapons was the same thing as in emissary lol this time they actually had the gunz though.

Wrong way around, they hadn't attacked Cardassia yet.

nope, you have it the wrong way round. the attack on ds9 came at the end of the first episode of way of the warrior, after their fleet had rolled through cardassian space. their fleet was in cardassian space, doing invasion-y stuff, the fleet that attacked the station was the one that chases the defiant back to ds9.

I didn't, and I also mentioned what the Martok Founder said about Starfleet pushing the Klingons back after they got their act together with Klingon losses increasing.

imo that was a comment about the fleet that the klingons were using at the time, which was tiny, losses were miniscule comapred to the dominion war losses.

I also mentioned Starfleet not being prepared for war due to the peace. There would have been a decade or two between the Enterprise-A and Enterprise-C, plently of time for a (likely) Federation-assited rebuild of the Empire and the Federation to settle into the peace.

as i said even if they were caught with their trousers down it wouldnt take long to mobilise and fight. the feds still had the romulans and cardies to worry about so they wouldnt have less of a fleet, just they would put the fleet in other places.

Surprise doesn't win, a good hit weakens the enemy and throws them off-balance. It is quite difficult to push back, if they can cause enough damage to the right targets fast enough. It's the same as what happens because of unexpected, early attacks in FO games; people can't build up and react properly.

fleetops is a different game lol. fledgling bases with limited resources can easily be crushed early. but the federation has multiple established bases. there is no way to cripple the federation with a surprise attack.

Bigger is rarely better, and it's usable space is actually smaller due to the massive hole in the centre. The D'deridex is meant to look threatening. It also depends on how powerful the races they conquered are. You don't have to be strong to conquer defenceless races, just stronger than them.

bigger usually does mean stronger in trek. up to the point where manoevrability makes the difference. the romulan military ability has always been indicated to be roughly the same as the feds, thats why a war between them would result in a slim victory, a waste of lives on both sides. i would bet that the Big D is a bit stronger than the galaxy. but maybe their fleet has slightly fewer numbers. its hard to say since so little about the romulans was shown.

Surrender isn't the same as keeping people happy and keeping people happy to prevent pointless conflict isn't cowardly. Bajor could have even been safer with the Klingon defending them; violent races are less likely to be pestered by the Cardasians.

lol i actually agreed with you that the feds might give away the station, i just wanted a way to work in the french military surrender jibe. bajor was probably worse off as a conquered race. but the quadrant was safer with the dominion kept at bay.

The Federation is peaceful, but their ships are unusually heavily armed for peacelovers and crewed by creative races with very violent and bloody histories. Many of which (like Humans) with a well known destructive side rivaling Klingons and quite capable of acting on them.

Hand to hand is the Klingons most skilled area, space combat is where Starfleet shines (we've all seen Starfleet Security in action).

well the fact that the feds look well armed is because they are the main characters of the show. i like the way fleetops has the feds, with strong defences like shields, and slightly weaker weapons. while the klingons have the best weapons.

i would bet that klingon ships are superior in space combat since they are a warrior race and like fighting and stuff. no science labs on their ships. just more torpedoes.

Yeah, pretty large walls too. I've seen bigger, though.

q makes big walls.

posted on December 5th, 2010, 4:14 pm

not true, it was after the neggie did the scan, they were trying to figure out whether the weapons existed or not.

Oh yes true. Gowron was thinking Sisko is bluffing before DS9 was scanned. His officer confirmed Sisko's statement and only the Martok-changeling was talking about a "trick" and Gowron neither agreed nor disagreed to that. He just attacked. Gowron wasn't as stupid as portrayed in the last DS9-season and basically knew Starfleet was also preparing to defend vital systems as for example the bajoran wormhole. Gowron wasn't the typical unthoughtful klingon.

posted on December 5th, 2010, 4:27 pm

nope, you have it the wrong way round. the attack on ds9 came at the end of the first episode of way of the warrior, after their fleet had rolled through cardassian space. their fleet was in cardassian space, doing invasion-y stuff, the fleet that attacked the station was the one that chases the defiant back to ds9.

The Klingons wanted Starfleet to attack Cardassia with them in the same epsiode, the Invasion was still in the early stage. The attack was before they got to the Homeworld, which they never reached.

imo that was a comment about the fleet that the klingons were using at the time, which was tiny, losses were miniscule comapred to the dominion war losses.

It was some way into the war, when the Klingons were committed. Obviously smaller than the Dominion War losses, that had 6 races and Klingons outnumbered 20-1 with an idiot commander.

as i said even if they were caught with their trousers down it wouldnt take long to mobilise and fight. the feds still had the romulans and cardies to worry about so they wouldnt have less of a fleet, just they would put the fleet in other places.

fleetops is a different game lol. fledgling bases with limited resources can easily be crushed early. but the federation has multiple established bases. there is no way to cripple the federation with a surprise attack.

If you punch someone and knock them over when they look the other way then repeatedly beat them with a pipe, they won't be able to fight back unless you give them a second to recover. Combine that with cloak and you could take out half their bases and forces in the sector before they even realized the Klingons attacked.

The FO bit is about pressure preventing you from recovering, which is valid; you can't recover if the enemy sabotages every attempt.

bigger usually does mean stronger in trek. up to the point where manoevrability makes the difference. the romulan military ability has always been indicated to be roughly the same as the feds, thats why a war between them would result in a slim victory, a waste of lives on both sides. i would bet that the Big D is a bit stronger than the galaxy. but maybe their fleet has slightly fewer numbers. its hard to say since so little about the romulans was shown.

Bigger means worse, not better; easier to hit and slower moving. Defiant proves bigger isn't better in Trek, with the Borg Cube being the exception because of adaption and regenerative ability.

The D'deridex was shown to be less capable than a Galaxy in the War, at least defence-wise, with D'deridex Class being shredded by the COWP while the Galaxy took multiple hits at point-blank range without any sign of lasting or serious damage.

lol i actually agreed with you that the feds might give away the station, i just wanted a way to work in the french military surrender jibe. bajor was probably worse off as a conquered race. but the quadrant was safer with the dominion kept at bay.

I never disagreed with you here, I was just focused on a smaller-scale advantage. Peaceful races are more likely to be bugged by Cardies than ones that with shiv you for just looking funny.

well the fact that the feds look well armed is because they are the main characters of the show. i like the way fleetops has the feds, with strong defences like shields, and slightly weaker weapons. while the klingons have the best weapons.

i would bet that klingon ships are superior in space combat since they are a warrior race and like fighting and stuff. no science labs on their ships. just more torpedoes.

Fed ships are no better armed than any other major race, that part isn't because of main episode focus.

Warrior races wouldn't have better ships, just ones with more weapons. Starfleet ones are more reliable, flexible and efficient. Ship battles involve more intelligence and tech, with the only interaction with weapons being you push a button to fire, which gives the more reliable Starfleet the advantage here. That's why I put the Klingons as better at close combat, because skill with weapons comes into play there, while skill with tech has more influence in ship-to-ship.

posted on December 5th, 2010, 5:26 pm

Oh yes true. Gowron was thinking Sisko is bluffing before DS9 was scanned. His officer confirmed Sisko's statement and only the Martok-changeling was talking about a "trick" and Gowron neither agreed nor disagreed to that. He just attacked. Gowron wasn't as stupid as portrayed in the last DS9-season and basically knew Starfleet was also preparing to defend vital systems as for example the bajoran wormhole. Gowron wasn't the typical unthoughtful klingon.

here's how it went:
1) neggie scans and reports lots of gunz (which are real)
2) there is talk on the bridge about whether the gunz are fake, especially considering they used a bluff in the pilot, and this same bluff is mentioned here, the exact same technobabble.

gowron was stupid, he was a politician and an idiot. he should have waited for the rest of his fleet to arrive. or stayed at the end and destroyed the puny 6 ship task force that had at least 2 excels, then destroyed ds9. job done. but nope, he lost his nerve and ran away, only to start a war later.

The Klingons wanted Starfleet to attack Cardassia with them in the same epsiode, the Invasion was still in the early stage. The attack was before they got to the Homeworld, which they never reached.

by cardassia i meant cardassian space in general. they were already in the process of a large scale invasion, they obviously didnt have their entire fleet at ds9. as the fleet that attacked ds9 was the fleet that was chasing the defiant.

It was some way into the war, when the Klingons were committed. Obviously smaller than the Dominion War losses, that had 6 races and Klingons outnumbered 20-1 with an idiot commander.

its best to ignore the stupidity of the 20 - 1 line.

the klingons were never properly committed to the war against the feds, the scales were completely off. the "war" with the feds was more border skirmishes than all out war.

If you punch someone and knock them over when they look the other way then repeatedly beat them with a pipe, they won't be able to fight back unless you give them a second to recover. Combine that with cloak and you could take out half their bases and forces in the sector before they even realized the Klingons attacked.

thats another bad an analogy, this time the analogy is plain ridiculous, we are talking about fleets of ships with disruptors and warp drives, no pipes

even with cloak there is no way to cripple an enemy that fast with surprise. and if they risk splitting their forces they risk heavy losses on multiple fronts. the federation has no 1 important target. it has multiple important targets like earth vulcan andoria etc. the element of surprise is potent, but not enough to win such a large war. that was down to the fact that war is their cup of tea, its what they do.

the federation is split over many many sectors, even if 1 sector fell, it wouldnt end a war.

The FO bit is about pressure preventing you from recovering, which is valid; you can't recover if the enemy sabotages every attempt.

again, the analogy is poor. in fo u have limited money to start with. no other bases to fall back to, once your presence on the map is gone, end of game. 1 base loss and you are dead.

in a war between the feds and klinks there are multiple bases on each side. no way to keep them down when they have so many places to fall back to and be safe. the war has to be won with long term fighting rather than rush and crush.

Bigger means worse, not better; easier to hit and slower moving. Defiant proves bigger isn't better in Trek, with the Borg Cube being the exception because of adaption and regenerative ability.

i disagree, a bigger ship means more power generation and more gunz. the defiant beat a neggie cos of manoeuvrability issues. in general a big ship will do better than a small ship. in a world without passives a dderidex would easily beat an akira for example.

The D'deridex was shown to be less capable than a Galaxy in the War, at least defence-wise, with D'deridex Class being shredded by the COWP while the Galaxy took multiple hits at point-blank range without any sign of lasting or serious damage.

you are quoting one of the episodes where nobody bothered to raise their shields thats a weak source. we dont know how many shots each ship had taken before. the galaxy could have been on its first few hits, while the big d had taken many shots before the screen showed the big D. a good comparison would be a galaxy and a big D in combat vs eachother, but sadly that never happened. we did see that 2 big D were so far ahead of a galaxy combat wise that it was assumed that surrender was the only option. so 1 big D was probably a small bit stronger in combat.

no sign of serious damage?

the uss galaxy suffered several hull breaches in that battle, it was getting hammered. you could clearly see the holes being cut into it.

Fed ships are no better armed than any other major race, that part isn't because of main episode focus.

it is, the main ships of the series need to be interesting, they need to have plenty of gunz.

the alien ships only appear rarely so arent shown to have as much. we also see starfleet ships winning a lot because the feds always win in trek lol. otherwise the main characters would all be killed and the show couldnt go on

Warrior races wouldn't have better ships, just ones with more weapons. Starfleet ones are more reliable, flexible and efficient. Ship battles involve more intelligence and tech, with the only interaction with weapons being you push a button to fire, which gives the more reliable Starfleet the advantage here. That's why I put the Klingons as better at close combat, because skill with weapons comes into play there, while skill with tech has more influence in ship-to-ship.

they would need ships better at combat. starfleet ships may be faster, have better science facilities etc.

but they are designed with exploration first and battle second.

klingon ships are designed with battle first end of. fed ships are flexible, but they are jack of all trades, why the klingon ships are designed to help the klingons do their thing, which is make warARARARAGHHHHH

the klingons put their efforts into war, so their competitive advantage should be in making war.

feds are good at science, so their ships will be best at science.

rom ships do cloak well.

dom ships ram well

before the dominion war i would have bet on the klingons winning with serious but not pyrrhic losses. thing is they made peace after praxis 'sploded and never needed serious war again.

maybe if the dominion hadnt came along and gowron remained leader, there would have been full scale fed vs klink war. but the doms forced them to make peace again. now martok is at the helm and he doesnt seem likely to start a war with the feds, espcially since the dominion hurt them so bad.

[Tyler]

posted on December 5th, 2010, 5:49 pm

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thats another bad an analogy, this time the analogy is plain ridiculous, we are talking about fleets of ships with disruptors and warp drives, no pipes

even with cloak there is no way to cripple an enemy that fast with surprise. and if they risk splitting their forces they risk heavy losses on multiple fronts. the federation has no 1 important target. it has multiple important targets like earth vulcan andoria etc. the element of surprise is potent, but not enough to win such a large war. that was down to the fact that war is their cup of tea, its what they do.

the federation is split over many many sectors, even if 1 sector fell, it wouldnt end a war.

Cripple vital points and it would get that exact end. As Garak said "Chop off a snakes head and the body will die". Cut off thae arms and it cannot punch.

again, the analogy is poor. in fo u have limited money to start with. no other bases to fall back to, once your presence on the map is gone, end of game. 1 base loss and you are dead.

Irrelevent. Pressure = bad recovery. Raiding supply lines is a valid and crippling tactic.

its best to ignore the stupidity of the 20 - 1 line.

the klingons were never properly committed to the war against the feds, the scales were completely off. the "war" with the feds was more border skirmishes than all out war.

It was a war against a major power of the quadrant. I know Klingons ain't the brightest, but they're not even close to that dumb.

you are quoting one of the episodes where nobody bothered to raise their shields thats a weak source. we dont know how many shots each ship had taken before. the galaxy could have been on its first few hits, while the big d had taken many shots before the screen showed the big D. a good comparison would be a galaxy and a big D in combat vs eachother, but sadly that never happened. we did see that 2 big D were so far ahead of a galaxy combat wise that it was assumed that surrender was the only option. so 1 big D was probably a small bit stronger in combat.

no sign of serious damage?

the uss galaxy suffered several hull breaches in that battle, it was getting hammered. you could clearly see the holes being cut into it.

It showed damage. It then gritted its teeth and blasted on without slowing down like a Hollywood action hero. D'deridex on the other hand were dying.

2 D'deridex being stronger than 1 Galaxy doesn't mean the D'deridex is stronger, it means it has the number advantage and double the firepower of 1 of them.

it is, the main ships of the series need to be interesting, they need to have plenty of gunz.

the alien ships only appear rarely so arent shown to have as much. we also see starfleet ships winning a lot because the feds always win in trek lol. otherwise the main characters would all be killed and the show couldnt go on

Starfleet ships are less armed than the aliens they meet. Klingons, Borg, several enemies of the week, ect had more weapons. Even Feregi ships! Number of weapons means nothing to the plot. Starfleet rarely won with weapons, only the deflector.

they would need ships better at combat. starfleet ships may be faster, have better science facilities etc.

but they are designed with exploration first and battle second.

klingon ships are designed with battle first end of. fed ships are flexible, but they are jack of all trades, why the klingon ships are designed to help the klingons do their thing, which is make warARARARAGHHHHH

the klingons put their efforts into war, so their competitive advantage should be in making war.

feds are good at science, so their ships will be best at science.

rom ships do cloak well.

dom ships ram well

before the dominion war i would have bet on the klingons winning with serious but not pyrrhic losses. thing is they made peace after praxis 'sploded and never needed serious war again.

maybe if the dominion hadnt came along and gowron remained leader, there would have been full scale fed vs klink war. but the doms forced them to make peace again. now martok is at the helm and he doesnt seem likely to start a war with the feds, espcially since the dominion hurt them so bad.

Fed ship are comparible to Klingon ships of the same type (Galaxy/Vor'cha, Constitution-Excelsior/K't'inga, ect). They're peaceful, but hit hard. The only Federation ship that Klingons have ever been able to kill was the Oberth. Even if the Klingons are the best, they are still limited by poorly maintained ships, shoddy design and the tendancy to hurt themselves more than the target (Americans in space).

They're likely to kill each other. Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages, Klingons have muscle and cunning while Starfleet have brains and Deflectors.

What was this thread about, again? Whatever it is, I think we're reaching Agree to disagree levels...

posted on December 5th, 2010, 6:23 pm

Cripple vital points and it would get that exact end. As Garak said "Chop off a snakes head and the body will die". Cut off thae arms and it cannot punch.

nope, no matter how many human body analogies you give, none of them will be good.

if u cripple all of the vital points it will win u a war. crippling all of them is the task, and the klingons arent up to the task.

a better analogy is a multi headed snake. cut off all the heads and it dies. chop of less than all and it doesnt.

Irrelevent. Pressure = bad recovery. Raiding supply lines is a valid and crippling tactic.

if u can keep them down yes. but u cant keep the whole federation down. in fleetops u can keep them down before they get a fleet. the feds already have a fleet. u cant keep them down since they already have a fleet.

It was a war against a major power of the quadrant. I know Klingons ain't the brightest, but they're not even close to that dumb.

it wasnt a real war, it was a skirmish. losses on both sides were in the dozens. a real war like the dominion war had hundreds of ships destroyed, on each side. the klingons were attacking with far less than their full strength. if starfleet had then brought all of its strength to fight, then yes the klingons would be pushed back, but then the klingons could just bring their full fleet and it becomes a full war. which luckily didnt happen because the dominion threat forced them to sign up to the khitomer accords again.

It showed damage. It then gritted its teeth and blasted on without slowing down like a Hollywood action hero. D'deridex on the other hand were dying.

again i say that this source is awful as we dont know who took how many hits and when. for all we know the galaxy was just attacked then and the big D was the first ship in and took huge amounts of fire. we know so little about the big D, my conjecture is that it is slightly more powerful than a galaxy.

2 D'deridex being stronger than 1 Galaxy doesn't mean the D'deridex is stronger, it means it has the number advantage and double the firepower of 1 of them.

i never said 2 DD were just stronger, i said they were so much stronger that it was assumed that the only course of action was surrender. 2 DD were WAY stronger than 1 galaxy. to the point that they said the enterprise wouldnt survive the first volley. accepting that as hyperbole, we still get that 1 DD at absolute minimum equal to a galaxy.

Starfleet ships are less armed than the aliens they meet. Klingons, Borg, several enemies of the week, ect had more weapons. Even Feregi ships! Number of weapons means nothing to the plot. Starfleet rarely won with weapons, only the deflector.

i lol at the deflector comment. in small battles yes the innovation can be an amazing plot device strength, but in a war i bet on the race that lives for war and designs their ships accordingly.

Fed ship are comparible to Klingon ships of the same type (Galaxy/Vor'cha, Constitution-Excelsior/K't'inga, ect). They're peaceful, but hit hard. The only Federation ship that Klingons have ever been able to kill was the Oberth. Even if the Klingons are the best, they are still limited by poorly maintained ships, shoddy design and the tendancy to hurt themselves more than the target (Americans in space).

They're likely to kill each other. Both sides have their advantages and disadvantages, Klingons have muscle and cunning while Starfleet have brains and Deflectors.

americans in space

i think a vorcha would outmatch a galaxy, and that a ktinga would outmatch an excel. we did see some excel vs ktinga in VOY: Flashback, but it was skewed badly, with 3 ktingas in a pursuit at warp with only photons rather than a fight in a war. so no judgements can be drawn from that particular battle.

i think the klingons with their muscle and battle abilities would win a war against the feds. deflectors only go so far. i believe the klingons will be good at what they do best. which is war.

you could sneeze to kill an oberth lol. also 3 kvorts murdered a galaxy and injured ambas. 2 would probably have a decisive (but not murdering) victory against a lone galaxy. while 1 would lose to the galaxy, but get in some serious damage before dying, leaving the galaxy limping away with many consoles exploded.

What was this thread about, again? Whatever it is, I think we're reaching Agree to disagree levels...

i think it was another of navy's wet dreams about the ambas lol. kidding navy we all love the ambas, just nowhere near as much as u.

agree to disagree sounds right. we both aired our points well.

incidentally, i type my walls of text in notepad and then copypasta over into quick reply box. do u type in browser or in notepad.

preferably i would use word, but it does bad with line breaks i find.

[Tyler]

posted on December 5th, 2010, 7:25 pm

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incidentally, i type my walls of text in notepad and then copypasta over into quick reply box. do u type in browser or in notepad.

For multiple quotes or to make long posts, I usually go the Notepad route. Much easier.

posted on December 5th, 2010, 7:27 pm

For multiple quotes times or make long posts, I usually go the Notepad route. Much easier.

i'm gonna try out wordpad, it has more features, see if it can copypasta properly into forum reply box. next time i have to write a wall of text i'll see if it's any good.

posted on December 5th, 2010, 7:28 pm

I notice you put 'copypasta' both of the last posts. Is that different to copy/paste in some way?

posted on December 5th, 2010, 7:31 pm

I notice you put 'copypasta' both of the last posts. Is that different to copy/paste in some way?

nah its just shameless abuse of a common meme

see ED: Copypasta - Encyclopedia Dramatica

and the more informative Know your meme:
Copypasta | Know Your Meme

copypasta is easier to type and works better as a verb than copy/paste.