against all odds

posted on November 6th, 2009, 1:15 pm

hi ya all just wondering has anyone else ever noticed the shear size of the dominion forces that the alpha alliance had to defeat in the dominion war i was watching the episode of ds9 the other night where worf kills gowron and its stated the klingons are deploying 1500 ships while the roms and feds adapt their ships to counter the breen but they were still outnumbered 20-1 this means the dominion had over 30,000 ships at there disposal and still lost

posted on November 6th, 2009, 2:56 pm

Never under estimate the power of a Klingon! 

posted on November 6th, 2009, 2:58 pm

"some would call that good leadership"

(some admiral to Picard, durring the klingon civil war)

posted on November 6th, 2009, 3:53 pm

i agrre there but lets say we gave the klingons 30,000 ships dont you think they would crush anything and anyone who got in their way???

posted on November 6th, 2009, 3:58 pm

Depends on the leader and Era... If Gowron was in charge, not a chance. If it is TOS-era, not a chance.

posted on November 6th, 2009, 4:01 pm

gowron couldnt lead a class of school kids on a trip

posted on November 22nd, 2009, 12:22 am

I feel that Gowron was more of a politician than a military leader.

Which is unfortunate because the Klingon High Chancellorship demands a pretty high level of ability in both.

Personally I say put Martok in charge for a while and see what happens.

Edit: typo

posted on December 3rd, 2009, 6:40 pm

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Personally I say put Martok in charge for a while and see what happens.

Edit: typo

Did you not see the end of DS9 ?

posted on December 3rd, 2009, 6:49 pm

Don't forget the Cardassians turned on the Dominion.... I'm confident they made up a good chunk of the Dominion fleet...

posted on December 3rd, 2009, 6:52 pm

Personally I say put Martok in charge for a while and see what happens.

Edit: typo

Did you not see the end of DS9 ?

Appearentally not...

Recap: Martok becomes Chancellor of the Klingon Empire, Worf accepts to be Martok's political assistant. They return to Q'onos together and remain there until Worf later takes command of the Defiant (destroyed in the battle of Wolf 359 in First Contact). After him being rescued from the blazing Defiant in Wolf 359, worf resumes charge as tactical officer under the name Enterprise once again.

posted on December 3rd, 2009, 6:53 pm

Don't forget the Cardassians turned on the Dominion.... I'm confident they made up a good chunk of the Dominion fleet...

The Dominion most likely outnumbered the Cardassians, even without counting the Breen. They were using the Cardassians as cannon-fodder during the war, so the Cardassians would have lost more ships.

posted on December 3rd, 2009, 7:10 pm

Hate to birst your bubble, but that's a saying said frequently in my region...

Your mum outnumbered us 20 to 1.

Not saying, theres 20 mums, merely saying shes got more power 

[Tyler]

posted on December 3rd, 2009, 7:14 pm

Last edited by Tyler on December 3rd, 2009, 7:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.

More power = overpower.
Bigger numbers = outnumber.

Someone is outnumbered because the enemy has bigger numbers. The Klingons were outnumbered 20-to-1 because the Dominion had 20x the number of ship (as far as the alliance knew, at least).

posted on December 3rd, 2009, 10:03 pm

Did you not see the end of DS9 ?


Appearentally not...

Recap: Martok becomes Chancellor of the Klingon Empire, Worf accepts to be Martok's political assistant. They return to Q'onos together and remain there until Worf later takes command of the Defiant (destroyed in the battle of Wolf 359 in First Contact). After him being rescued from the blazing Defiant in Wolf 359, worf resumes charge as tactical officer under the name Enterprise once again.

That wasn't Wolf 359.  That was the Battle of Sector 001.  It was alot like Wolf 359, however, until Picard showed up.

posted on December 3rd, 2009, 11:06 pm

Did you not see the end of DS9 ?


Appearentally not...

Recap: Martok becomes Chancellor of the Klingon Empire, Worf accepts to be Martok's political assistant. They return to Q'onos together and remain there until Worf later takes command of the Defiant (destroyed in the battle of Wolf 359 in First Contact). After him being rescued from the blazing Defiant in Wolf 359, worf resumes charge as tactical officer under the name Enterprise once again.

And the defiant wasn't destroyed. And First Contact was set during DS9, as was Insurrection.