Secret service dont Trust Royal Navy

posted on October 26th, 2011, 11:49 pm

@ MrXT - regarding Brandon Lee and "dummy rounds".
  Brandon Lee died when a "dummy round" that had been created on set malfunctioned and became lodged in the chamber.  The blank (yes, it was a real blank) was fired behind it later and the charge was enough to send the dummy into Lee's spine.

@ MrXT - regarding how reasonable it is to ask a warship to point it's missile away from the First Lady
  The American Secret Service was reportedly very polite about asking the Warship to aim it's weapons away from the First Lady's room.  When the sailors informed them that they were dummy rounds, the Secret Service accepted that as fine. 

  What's so unreasonable about that?  The point was to avoid ANY kind of accident.  It's not a question of trust as you said it was - it's about preventing any possibility of an accident from happening that could endanger the First Lady.


   If you're a Brit I would expect you to understand given the extreme caution taken for the Queen ...

posted on October 27th, 2011, 10:53 am

warship would be parked outside the first lady's hotel for training?

i heard it was repatriating a dead body.

posted on October 27th, 2011, 11:28 am

I suppose there would be a similar farce happen if Obama and/or family ever has to stop at London Gateway Services (never gonna happen, admittedly), as HMS Belfast's guns are pointed at it. HMS Belfast is completely decommissioned, and it's only symbolic to show how far those guns could reach (Gateway being 12.5 miles from the ship), but I would bet money the Secret Service would demand they turn them away.

i heard it was repatriating a dead body.

That's what I'd heard too.

[MrXT]

posted on October 27th, 2011, 12:51 pm

Last edited by MrXT on October 27th, 2011, 12:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

@ MrXT - regarding Brandon Lee and "dummy rounds".
  Brandon Lee died when a "dummy round" that had been created on set malfunctioned and became lodged in the chamber.  The blank (yes, it was a real blank) was fired behind it later and the charge was enough to send the dummy into Lee's spine.

@ MrXT - regarding how reasonable it is to ask a warship to point it's missile away from the First Lady
  The American Secret Service was reportedly very polite about asking the Warship to aim it's weapons away from the First Lady's room.  When the sailors informed them that they were dummy rounds, the Secret Service accepted that as fine. 

  What's so unreasonable about that?  The point was to avoid ANY kind of accident.  It's not a question of trust as you said it was - it's about preventing any possibility of an accident from happening that could endanger the First Lady.


   If you're a Brit I would expect you to understand given the extreme caution taken for the Queen ...

Of course i understand the caution im not stupid i do understand its their job but i was basing my argument off the paragraph i read in the sun which was different to what it says on the sun website, in the paper it said the agents stormed aboard and demanded to know if the missiles were real and to turn them which i found hilarious because they would have all been killed and no more potato heads to watch the presidents wife.

But The point is they are missiles and if fired it wouldn't matter what directly they were pointed in and that's what everyone finds so funny. Not to mention the fact that the picture clearly shows them NOT pointing at the hotel...in the general direction of the hotel but not AT the hotel they are aimed upwards.


Had i been a sailor at the time id have said.

A source said the agents told sailors: "You can't point those guns at the First Lady."

"Yeah well you cant point your first lady at our guns."