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posted on September 12th, 2007, 5:46 am
Everyone but you knows exactly whats wrong here.
posted on September 12th, 2007, 6:27 am
I did not saay I did not know I just did not say. So Ha! lol
posted on September 12th, 2007, 3:51 pm
What's going on here? 
posted on September 12th, 2007, 9:57 pm
4) Bush tax cuts along with many other decision have drained the treasury.
Oh yeah, and my macroeconomics course finally covered this area.
The US takes in trillions and trillions of dollars. So far we have seen no significant effects of tax cuts or the war on the economy. In fact, do you know what the biggest piece of the money pie is on the US budget? Social security. In fact, some girl made an idiot out of herself in class by grossly overestimating the money we spend on the war.
So ewm, if you really want to 'save our economy', go out and kill all the old people. That will save much much much much more money than stopping the war.
posted on September 13th, 2007, 8:37 pm
But if you look at the state of the defasit you will see the affect of tax cuts tax was made to pay for the servuse rendered by a government to the people with out tax w cant pay for them. If a person had to pay for the sevuse the goverment reinders fire pertection safety rodes ..... it would be allot more and people of motets incomes would be left out. The war adds to the drain on the munny we have so tax becomes more inportent.
Grate idea or we could reform the health care systiom to more of a socialist plat for like 99% of the earth has.
[br]Posted on: 12 September 2007, 06:15:30
Thar was a desterbing poll result on cnn and I wonted to see where the forum is on this.
The Q: Do you think its necessary to keep troops in Iraq to prevent tarism?
What do you think then I will give my feed back.
Grate idea or we could reform the health care systiom to more of a socialist plat for like 99% of the earth has.
[br]Posted on: 12 September 2007, 06:15:30
Thar was a desterbing poll result on cnn and I wonted to see where the forum is on this.
The Q: Do you think its necessary to keep troops in Iraq to prevent tarism?
What do you think then I will give my feed back.
posted on September 13th, 2007, 9:28 pm
I actually do think it is necessary to keep armed forces in Iraq as the local executive is not strong enough to deal with violence and terrorism without support. It's a tragedy all this happend but now that the war has been declared over it's the least the military can do: support the local institutions to establish a stable government. This will take years, many years but if they leave Iraq now we will earn much more chaos as there already is.
It's a lose-lose-situation. It's dangerous to stay and you won't earn any credits for risking your live; the opposite will happen. If you leave things will only get much worse.
Whatever you might have thought about this war there's no alternative to keeping troops down there and try to prevent Iraq from slipping on an even more violent and chaotic level. But that's something the US should have had in mind when they invaded Iraq. I'm not sure if they had... The real war always begins after the war is over.
It's a lose-lose-situation. It's dangerous to stay and you won't earn any credits for risking your live; the opposite will happen. If you leave things will only get much worse.
Whatever you might have thought about this war there's no alternative to keeping troops down there and try to prevent Iraq from slipping on an even more violent and chaotic level. But that's something the US should have had in mind when they invaded Iraq. I'm not sure if they had... The real war always begins after the war is over.
posted on September 14th, 2007, 2:21 pm
ewm90 wrote:But if you look at the state of the defasit you will see the affect of tax cuts tax was made to pay for the servuse rendered by a government to the people with out tax w cant pay for them. If a person had to pay for the sevuse the goverment reinders fire pertection safety rodes ..... it would be allot more and people of motets incomes would be left out. The war adds to the drain on the munny we have so tax becomes more inportent.
Grate idea or we could reform the health care systiom to more of a socialist plat for like 99% of the earth has.
The deficit isn't bad at all, if you look at it. The fact is, it has been much worse throughout much of history. You seem not to understand the complexities of government economics. The fact is that it is very, very complex. Things that seem bad are really no cause to panic. In fact, our economy is the strongest in the world.
[br]Posted on: 12 September 2007, 06:15:30
Thar was a desterbing poll result on cnn and I wonted to see where the forum is on this.
The Q: Do you think its necessary to keep troops in Iraq to prevent tarism?
What do you think then I will give my feed back.
What the Old Man said is pretty much accurate. Although the truth is more complicated. If we pull out, we'll not only be unable to save to Sunnis and Shiites for themselves, we'll also be opening to door for an international war. Don't think that Iran doesn't have an interest in the area; they've been actively working against us in Iraq to destabilize the region for a very protracted amount of time. If we leave, we give them an open Iraq, along with all of its oil. Yes, even for Iran it is very much about oil. Also don't think that the neighboring sunni nations will just let Iran invade either. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan, and others don't want Iran on their doorstep. Syria could care less. On top of all this is Israel. They'd be cought up in the middle of it. The Kurds may well use the opportunity to create their own state, thus dragging Turkey into the war.
My point is that if we leave, things will get very ugly.
Dr. Lazarus
posted on September 14th, 2007, 2:40 pm
I agree that the US budget defecit is not anywhere near as bad as it seems. As a percentage of overall GDP it is actually much smaller than the defecit in the 1930s before the Great Depression, even though it is bigger in absolute terms. The US GDP is a big animal, and the financial system is designed to some extend to operate on credit (that's why countries such as China and Japan buy US debt in exchange for what they can get in return (they're not doin it out of the good of their hearts, especially China). The debt is bought in exchange for services. And there are other wealthy economies, such as the UK, which operate a budget defecit (and in the case of the UK it's no doubt a larger chunk of overall GDP).
The only thing I don't like about the credit based system is the tendency of banks to lend money too readily when things are going "well", often to people who cannot really afford it. When the credit isn't sustainable it comes back to bite you. The money doesn't really exist in that case, so it literally gets shaved off companies in the guise of stock value. The current mortgage "crisis" is the banks' fault, and they should pay. It doesn't have to affect the wider economy significantly.
I'm no economics expert, but a little knowledge can go a long way. If the US economy goes into recession it will be because of bad decisions by bad bankers giving money to people who cannot afford to pay it back. The budget defecit is financed by other economies, and is a separate issue methinks.
The only thing I don't like about the credit based system is the tendency of banks to lend money too readily when things are going "well", often to people who cannot really afford it. When the credit isn't sustainable it comes back to bite you. The money doesn't really exist in that case, so it literally gets shaved off companies in the guise of stock value. The current mortgage "crisis" is the banks' fault, and they should pay. It doesn't have to affect the wider economy significantly.
I'm no economics expert, but a little knowledge can go a long way. If the US economy goes into recession it will be because of bad decisions by bad bankers giving money to people who cannot afford to pay it back. The budget defecit is financed by other economies, and is a separate issue methinks.
posted on September 14th, 2007, 4:33 pm
Good you all gave a sain response. lol Not so on CNN.
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My Ma, Just informed me of some unsettling news she read Hunt oil how CEO sits on G W B's national security counsel is making Oil deals with the Kurds and not the other ethic groups in Iraq with Iraqi Oil. It all most looks to a out sider that the Bush adminastration is trying to because ethic strife......
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My Ma, Just informed me of some unsettling news she read Hunt oil how CEO sits on G W B's national security counsel is making Oil deals with the Kurds and not the other ethic groups in Iraq with Iraqi Oil. It all most looks to a out sider that the Bush adminastration is trying to because ethic strife......
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