GUN banned no more.

posted on July 19th, 2008, 10:47 pm

That was some great spelling ewm. Perhaps taking time is the key - I often go back and correct mistakes myself. Of course Frodo was not claiming to be an expert on dyslexia. Knowing someone is enough, you don't really have to be an expert. I have a friend who is dyslexic, and he's doing a PhD in physical chemistry at Cambridge. He tends to need more time but he's a brilliant scientist.

As for global warming, it is real but it may not have been caused by humans. Other planets in the solar system go through global warming without the help of SUV's and power stations. Either way, it is fallacious to use someone's view on an unrelated subject as a weapon to win an argument. I think the gun debate won't come to an end with both "sides" claiming things that stretch the limits of credulity, e.g. that morality doesn't exist, or that eliminating guns would prevent murder, or that we have some sort of god given right to gun ownership, or that the constitution is some sort gospel etc etc.

It's a recipe for a never ending slanging match. Like in theological debates, if one (or more) sides claim something so absurd that it is impossible to disprove it, then actually no argument has enough strength to break through.

posted on July 20th, 2008, 10:33 pm

Academic achievement is not a messier of intelligence its a messier of how much information you retain. He maybe smart but its not from school.

I am not posting from morality. But if you make some one or some thing wrong or right "morality" there can not be a logical solution you where in the ballpark.

Thats why I wont to offer the landmark forum to open up new possibility and those possibilities I may not be in favor of but if there there I am happy with the out come. But with out expand what you know to be TRUE the out come is almost predictable.

[Dr. Lazarus]

posted on July 20th, 2008, 11:31 pm

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I don't really want to get into a slanging match with you ewm, but I must say that academic achievement has positively nothing to do with retaining information or with memory.

Take two examples. The undergraduate organic chemistry book in the UK is massive, and no-one can possibly memorize the information inside it. However, by learning the principles of organic chemistry (particularly reaction mechanisms and curly arrows) you develop the ability to work it out. Second example, a professional physicist typically only remembers a small handful of simple equations, but knows how to expertly derive the rest. Nobody can rely on memory which is why no professional tries to do so.

Is this yet another example of the constant, ill thought out nonesense that you spew forth in every single post that you make? Take the following:

But if you make some one or some thing wrong or right "morality" there can not be a logical solution you where in the ballpark.

This statement is barely coherent, even though the spelling is faultless. My best interpretation of this sentence is this: "If one labels a (right or wrong) action as morality, then logic breaks down. Even here I am not entirely sure if you meant this. If in fact you did, then - what the hell? Thought becomes unstructured ("illogical") if ideas become vague and lose their meaning. However, this is precisely what you are advocating!!! We order our reality and our thoughts by assigning each action some indicator of how right or wrong it is. We call this framework, by definition, morality. A universe in which stabbing someone in the chest was given the same number as giving someone a bunch of flowers (all because of the so-called superior status of "subjectivity") would be a sorry universe indeed.

posted on July 20th, 2008, 11:44 pm

O relay so why did he go?

Yes but learning the principles "infuriation".

No one can get smarter they are what they are.

This statement is barely coherent to you maybe not to me.

You can call morality what ever you wont but its still is morality. "We order our reality and our thoughts by assigning each action some indicator of how right or wrong it is". Yes but thats not the only way to live.

posted on July 21st, 2008, 7:28 am

lol I am a fraud

Yes and one that deliberately winds people up.

Guns are like berth interesting. maybe there no changing it for you but not for me.

By this I mean they are already here and have been for a long time. It would be very difficult to get rid of all the guns and make you happy. What do you propose to do? Outlaw guns? Strip our armies of all our defences? You think America can order the taliban and Iran to put their guns away and behave? Ha! Grow up!

and this all comes from the guy how has on his sig global worming is not real. You will have to lean the hard way it seems about global worming too..

I think we'll all learn the same way - its just the way the planet grows! Humans are just making it a bit faster.
I aint scared of no global worms [br]Posted on: July 21, 2008, 08:26:05 AM

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I think the gun debate won't come to an end with both "sides" claiming things that stretch the limits of credulity, e.g. that morality doesn't exist, or that eliminating guns would prevent murder, or that we have some sort of god given right to gun ownership, or that the constitution is some sort gospel etc etc.

It's a recipe for a never ending slanging match. Like in theological debates, if one (or more) sides claim something so absurd that it is impossible to disprove it, then actually no argument has enough strength to break through.

That summarises the thread pretty good i think btw

posted on July 21st, 2008, 10:48 am

People get dont get wound up they chose to get wound up its a chose it may not look like that now but only a person can control his own response I can go in to there head and make them get angry.

Yes and one that deliberately winds people up.

No one can make me happy. It maybe difficult but doable.

The planet is changing much much faster then every be for in this way. the earth is not able to adapt to the change at this speed. You are one of the few that aren't now.


Well you are in a position to change the cores of how this tread goose.



By this I mean they are already here and have been for a long time. It would be very difficult to get rid of all the guns and make you happy. What do you propose to do? Outlaw guns? Strip our armies of all our defences? You think America can order the taliban and Iran to put their guns away and behave? Ha! Grow up!


I think we'll all learn the same way - its just the way the planet grows! Humans are just making it a bit faster.
I aint scared of no global worms [br]Posted on: July 21, 2008, 08:26:05 AM

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That summarises the thread pretty good i think btw

posted on July 21st, 2008, 9:48 pm

Hey Doc,
... give my planetary geologist girlfriend a day or so, she wants to respond to this one  : "As for global warming, it is real but it may not have been caused by humans. Other planets in the solar system go through global warming without the help of SUV's and power stations. "

...or should it go in another thread... 

posted on July 21st, 2008, 10:20 pm

, probably another thread. Actually my view is more moderate than it appears - I believe there is evidence that a certain portion of climate change is caused by the sun, and as a physics student it intrigues me as to how climate scientists claim to detect warming amongst all the "noise". However I don't have enough knowledge to make a judgement on this one. I should stick to physics!!! 

posted on July 22nd, 2008, 12:13 pm

good point I will make a new thread for Global Climate Change.

posted on July 22nd, 2008, 12:43 pm

oh joy.

posted on July 22nd, 2008, 1:50 pm

If only we spent the money we spent on guns on bettering people live we would live in a far safer world.


Kids can and do get killed in Crosse fires.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJB9VWc_yaQ&feature=related[/youtube]

Cops face sudden death because we like gun toys.


more hart renting movies.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utSjnTqPipc&feature=related[/youtube]

Non of this needs to hapen

posted on July 22nd, 2008, 2:41 pm

While they may be hart rantering videos....this article is too...http://www.conservativemonitor.com/news/2002008.shtml

If only they had killed that bastard, 83 innocent lives would have been left clean. A gun could have saved 83 innocent children from being assaulted. A gun ewm. A gun can save lives too. What say you?

posted on July 22nd, 2008, 3:32 pm

The gun may have help that one person but over the life of a run it can have many body on it from people considered by plays it kept as good and bad.

Wile guns may help a few they hart far more "Good people" guns are made to be fired when I bullet is discharged it final area of landing is unknown until it reechoes it..

posted on July 23rd, 2008, 10:26 am

I'm going to fart on your head!

posted on July 23rd, 2008, 11:09 am

That is probably the smartest thing you have said so far...