Excelsior 2 Community Design

posted on September 10th, 2007, 4:16 pm

Technically we have seen phasers miss a moving target... Nemesis, when Picard's sovereign fires "full spread". Though then again, the darn ship WAS cloaked. Also, in the newest series (is that Enterprise? I can't really remember the name), Captain Archer fires at romulan drone ships (controlled by those strange andorians that are blind but telepathic) and misses--constantly, I might add--when firing his phasers. SO THERE! HA!
lol, just kidding. I also thought, now that I truly think about it, that the way the first generation Excelsior's primary hull is glued on to engineering deck looks a bit odd. Too right angularish again. Makes the ship look bulky, not streamlined.
-dom

posted on September 10th, 2007, 4:31 pm

I wouldn't know 'cos I can't glue the thing on. I've tried and tried, but the damn thing won't fit!! I guess I'm just not very skilled at it. I tried using a knife to shave a few bits of plastic off, but I think I made the situation worse. Now the duck's neck thingy is too small for the primary hull part. I've really stuffed it up haven't I? 

posted on September 10th, 2007, 7:19 pm

I would use both the original Excelsior AND the Excelsior E-B Lakota subtype. My logic is, you can buy the Lakota with credits, and the original Excelsior would be a less powerful Heavy Cruiser like in say, SFC3.

Or you could use the Rhien/Generix refit thingy, be able to buy Excelsiors fairly early in game, and soon after be able to refit them to Enterprise subtypes capable of some sort of anti-cloak device. Then after much more tech, Lakota subtypes, costing much more and a credit. So you get 3 out of one, or something...

posted on September 10th, 2007, 9:29 pm

I have no quarrel with the original Excelsior being ingame, but they would have to be warp-in ships as they are (most definitely) no longer built by the Federation.

posted on September 10th, 2007, 9:58 pm

But then take into account the sheer number of them left, far exceeding the Nebula, Galaxy, Sovereign, and Defiant classes combined.

posted on September 10th, 2007, 10:02 pm

Well, just because they are warp-in doesn't mean that they must cost credits.  It could be accomplished just as well as if they were built, except more realistic.

posted on September 10th, 2007, 10:03 pm

Fair enough, but I still think dropping that unnecessary Remore class for a multi-upgradeable Excelsior would solve all these issues.

posted on September 10th, 2007, 10:21 pm

It would be interesting.  But I must say I have a particular fondness for the Remore's design.  That, and the FO team already redid it for v3.

posted on September 11th, 2007, 1:57 am

That was just my idea, as the Remore would be an excellent ship to drop, due to it's uncanonness and general ugly-unstar trekky look.

posted on September 13th, 2007, 3:51 pm

I think i vaguely remember Optec mentioning that the old-style Excelsior would be in FO at some point as well (as an "uncommon stuff" unit like the Premonition is). It is likely that will be the Lakota refit, as it would be safe to assume all of the Excelsior's in service would have had that upgrade.

posted on September 13th, 2007, 4:32 pm

Actually I like the Remoore since it has been redone for V3. The design is great and I wouldn't call it useless. It's a good support-ship. Well, unless you regard support-ships as useless, the Remoore is useless, too. If you like them.. you have to like her. That's logic.. or whatever.
But the idea of Excelsior-refits sounds good. Maybe the staff comes up with something which would integrate this idea into the game.

posted on September 26th, 2007, 5:34 am

The Excelsior is unlikely to see frontline combat duty. The Miranda suffered EXTENSIVELY during the dominion war and I doubt it would see anything but customs duty, training ship duty or patrol and anti piracy duty inside the federation. The Excelsior is the type of ship to be relegated to the Romulan Neutral zone during a major crisis, and it is more than likely they are being slowly decommissioned to bolster the crew pool for newer vessels, and the latter batches being refit to the Excelsior II Standard which makes the Excelsior I Lakota Subtype ENTIRELY redundant. Thus the Miranda, Excelsior I (and IB), the Ambassador, Freedom, Cheyenne and other similar early TNG / TMP Designs belong as map objects.

posted on February 12th, 2008, 9:03 pm

nooooooooooooooooooooooooo after all of these of inactivity and A is still winning? who do i have to kill to have B win?.

posted on February 12th, 2008, 10:45 pm

I know, darn it!