Black Holes

posted on April 28th, 2009, 1:21 am

I know you guys are going to be adding black holes and other interstellar phenomena soon, so i thought i'd point you towards [link]http://armada2.filefront.com/file/Dark_Blue_Blackhole;99424[/link]. It is a far sight better than the stock black hole, and it seems like it is almost FO quality.

[Dominus_Noctis]

posted on April 28th, 2009, 1:24 am

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Really, if the black hole is active, all it should show is the gas swirling around the event horizon and no silly "3-D slope thingy" (and if at all possible, cool gravitational effects on ships passing close by... can you say gravity lensing?  )

Though I agree that this is much better than stock. 

[mimesot]

posted on April 28th, 2009, 1:31 am

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gravitational effects on ships passing close by... can you say gravity lensing?

Is that question for me? *ggggg*
The term gravitational lense is only osed for light which is bended arount the black hole. For massive objects we are just talking of the most common gravitational attreaction, though the reason for the two effevts is the same.

An accretion disc would be really nice, when there is matter inhaled by the black hole. Normally it should be completly black, just being visibly trough the starligh bended around.

The "inactive" one probably looking like that:

Such an image is more likly to be implemented than the wonderful light bending of the wiki-image.

A good accretion disc image is that one:


People always tend to imagine black holes like a bending towards the behind, the downside of the universe which is like the stock armada black hole.

posted on April 28th, 2009, 1:44 am

Agreed Mimesot 

posted on April 28th, 2009, 1:46 am

The first picture somehow remindsme of "The Ring", if you imagine i without the background stars. Scary!

[Anonymous]

posted on April 28th, 2009, 2:02 am

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seems to me that it would be two of the proposed funnels both parallel funneling in towards a single point and then squashed.

looking like this of course it would be spinning, and more flat but you get the picture
                        _______   
                      -     -__-     -   
                      _    _---_    _
                        ------------
on its side
                           

posted on April 28th, 2009, 2:11 am

Why are you thinking two funnels Adm. Zaxxon? The acretion disk itself will be flat...

posted on April 28th, 2009, 2:20 am

because the way blask holes are formed, with two magnetic poles it would still be flat like or disk shaped, like.  We also know that black holes suck every thing in, even light, this is why they are "black".  So the reason they would be funnel shaped is because the light and other things we see being sucked in would be spirled into it like a sink, therefor looking like a funnel. 

This would all look something like this. 

posted on April 28th, 2009, 2:23 am

Well since we don't really know what it looks like, why not speculate a little and try and produce a nice looking graphic? after all, the only way you can really do an accretion disk in a2 is and i think a different look would be neat. Perhaps a swirling globe of matter spiraling into a black center or something?

posted on April 28th, 2009, 2:27 am

actually it would look a lot like the Worm Hole effect that is already in A2. a little scaling would be needed, but in the end that is all you need.

[RCIX]

posted on April 28th, 2009, 2:33 am

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maybe if you use high-res textures and stuff it would work... As far as how i imagine space and distortions thereof, i use a 3-d grid that is "stretched" towards the center of the black hole. I find it the best method of imagining such sorts of things.

posted on April 28th, 2009, 2:39 am

ah, but that is the thing, is that Black holes, as well as galaxys all work on a 2D scale, cus they alwayse have to spin left to right on a set axis, therefore sending matter out to creat a disk like shape.  It would not be sucking in from all directions.  Only the top and bottom.

[mimesot]

posted on April 28th, 2009, 2:58 am

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We quite know what a black hole will look like. A black hole will most certainly not look like a funnel, because Schwartzschild-metric is spherical symmetric. Especially there is no reason for a preferred direction of a funnel.

The A2 wormhole is quite a nice model (if retextured), but only if there is a akkretion-disc. This means it only has a glowing planar surrounding if there is matterial suched in. Otherwise the only visible thing about it is the distortion of the background image.

posted on April 28th, 2009, 3:00 am

To add to that, a black hole will suck in from all directions, but the acretion disk that is formed will only be... a disk 

posted on April 28th, 2009, 3:08 am

what they said