Borg being captured

posted on December 22nd, 2010, 4:57 pm

the borg kids in "collective" had no issues flying their ship from an incubation chamber.

actually the queen did lose control of ships when the unimatrix zero drones severed from the hive. this is evidenced by the klingon drone's sphere attacking the tactical cube. the collective lost control of that sphere.

borg ships can be run without the hive mind, but i would bet that they run most efficiently and reach their optimum when connected to the hive.

so maybe captured borg ships (when does that ever happen to anything bigger than a detector lol) would operate with reduced stats.

Yes i just re-read it i thought he meant ships that when away from unimatrix i didnt realise he was talking about the episode in voyager.

Still i think they were just ending the series and had them do that maybe since they already had the nanites or something i dunno but it was said in startrek that it needs the borg hive mind to control the ship.

I captured a sphere with a massive group of cloaked luspet ^^

posted on December 22nd, 2010, 5:08 pm

Still i think they were just ending the series and had them do that maybe since they already had the nanites or something i dunno but it was said in startrek that it needs the borg hive mind to control the ship.

lol u cant dismiss the evidence from voyager that easily. there is no evidence to support borg ships needing the hive mind. working better with it, yes, but still working without it.

I captured a sphere with a massive group of cloaked luspet ^^

try stealing a miner, only 1100 crew

posted on December 22nd, 2010, 5:19 pm

Oh, is that all? The 900 Assembler is far more tempting...

Why is it they are the only ones with freighters having a larger crew than the constructor? What do they need so many for?

posted on December 22nd, 2010, 5:44 pm

Oh, is that all? The 900 Assembler is far more tempting...

well that always sits in their base and they'll hear your beaming sound and beam from their stations. borg dont even have a way to decloak you before diamonds with nanites lol. em scube needs to shoot you.

so doing this at a borg exp would be funny imagine a team of griffins stealing a borg miner in early mid game.

posted on December 22nd, 2010, 10:54 pm

lol u cant dismiss the evidence from voyager that easily. there is no evidence to support borg ships needing the hive mind. working better with it, yes, but still working without it.

try stealing a miner, only 1100 crew

of course i can dismiss it, every scifi series in season finals they change alot of stuff so they can end it, for example in stargate atlantis ronon was fed upon numerous times and was revived by a wrath even tho it said that he could not be fed upon and thats the reason he was made a runner.

Anyway at the end of the day the ones flying those ships were still borg so... it changes nothing, the node keeps them in connection with each other on that ship so this maybe how they were flying it, this episode never went into any detail about how they were doing it so were just guessing but its pointless to argue about it as its invalid they were still borg, feds/klingons ect are not.

Anyway just thought id give my view on that but the detector makes up for its vulnarability with extra crew so i dont think its needed to give it a shield, the other scouts can just as easly be stolen, and if you dont want the detector stolen then move it.

posted on December 22nd, 2010, 11:30 pm

of course i can dismiss it

no you cant canon is fixed, u cant change it. you cant exclude the last season of any sci fi just cos you didnt like it. threshold is canon, everyone (including the makers) hates it but its still canon. the only way it would stop bieng canon is if the production team decided to eliminate it from canon, which they didnt do.

for example in stargate atlantis ronon was fed upon numerous times and was revived by a wrath even tho it said that he could not be fed upon and thats the reason he was made a runner.

thats not the reason he was made a runner. he was made a runner because he was capable of being good prey, it was sport. ronan was perfectly valid for feeding upon. i dont know where you got the idea that ronon was immune to feeding, the only time that happened was with the hoffan drug.

source: Ronon Dex - Stargate Wiki

Anyway at the end of the day the ones flying those ships were still borg so... it changes nothing, the node keeps them in connection with each other on that ship so this maybe how they were flying it, this episode never went into any detail about how they were doing it so were just guessing but its pointless to argue about it as its invalid they were still borg, feds/klingons ect are not.

maybe, maybe, maybe.... all thats just conjecture either way since we never saw inside the sphere.

we definitely saw the kids in collective (an earlier episode, not last season) using control panels to deal with basic ships functions. they werent using any form of hive mind, not even a local one. they typed everything into panels. they couldnt communicate telepathically or anything. they werent fully developed as drones either, they were closer to their species of origin.

Anyway just thought id give my view on that but the detector makes up for its vulnarability with extra crew so i dont think its needed to give it a shield, the other scouts can just as easly be stolen, and if you dont want the detector stolen then move it.

the other scouts are easily stolen when shields are down, but to get their shields down you need to fire on them, which mining stations cant do. but mining stations can beam to a detector, which is how most detector steals happen. when you first go have a look at their base.