Voyager armor

posted on February 6th, 2009, 1:25 pm

Optec said once we are now 20 years after the dominion war.

So someone thought about the full armor of voyagers end game ?!
Would be funny to use it on the intrepid vessels.

posted on February 6th, 2009, 1:32 pm

The armpr is powerful and very useful.

That means it is unlikely to be in anything Star Trek (like all other useful one-off pieces of tech in the series).

posted on February 6th, 2009, 2:41 pm

Its very unlikely that they kept the new technologies voyagewr had at the end.
With transphasic torpedoes, armor and anti-borg viruses the federation would be a bit too powerful.
Of course in reality one would keep such technology, but it wouldn't really fit in star trek.
My guesses are that they either destroyed all the new technology when they came back (because of effects on the timeline and such) or that people from the 29th century came to do that....

[Tyler]

posted on February 6th, 2009, 3:39 pm

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Starfleet has an odd phobia of advanced Tech. If they find an extinct race's world they destroy anything more advanced than what they have instead of use it (even the device that scanned the tech), so it is a safe bet that they destroyed the future tech and erased all data from the computers even though the future it came from doesn't exist.

posted on February 6th, 2009, 5:54 pm

Its very unlikely that they kept the new technologies voyagewr had at the end.
With transphasic torpedoes, armor and anti-borg viruses the federation would be a bit too powerful.
Of course in reality one would keep such technology, but it wouldn't really fit in star trek.
My guesses are that they either destroyed all the new technology when they came back (because of effects on the timeline and such) or that people from the 29th century came to do that....

If Starfleet destroyed the tech Voyager brought back from the Delta Quadrant it would have been a very reckless action, since the Borg already tried to adapt to it. The only race with an advantage would be the borg and that can't be what Starfleet would intent to do.
Though the idea that people from the 29th century would come back to correct the consequenzes of future-tech use, isn't fetched from so far away, they would have to stop Admiral Janeway from helping Captain Janeway - so there wouldn't be any future-tech at all and Voyager would still be in the Delta Quadrant. 

[silent93]

posted on February 6th, 2009, 6:26 pm

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My theory, for the sake of continuity and some vague semblance of sanity, which I know the Voyager writers frequently just ignored, is this.

Nothing the 29th century people gave to voyager would have failed to be invented after a single year of peaceful study of 7-0f-9's modifications to Voyager, integrating borgtech.  This includes One's shield and phaser upgrades.

Edit to add my other theory -

Theory 2.  Thanks to Janeway defeating the Borg, Voyager never actually came home, caught in a recursive time-paradox loop wherein the future tech that the feds developed for fighting the borg was never needed in the first place, so wasn't invented, and couldn't be brought back to Janeway.  That causes the Borg to not be defeated, which causes the tech to be invented, and Voyager just gets stuck in a perpetual loop.

posted on February 6th, 2009, 6:50 pm

Theory 3. Just blame Q.

posted on February 6th, 2009, 6:51 pm

Theory 3. Just blame Q.

I like it. I'm pretty sure that that's enough said. We don't need to go anymore in depth than that lol

[runaway]

posted on February 6th, 2009, 7:02 pm

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specualtions...
I don't wan't a comment  or theory of what happend to the technology.
I want to know if there are some plans to implement it or not and if we know that....some of you can write a nice comment why we can use it or not .

I'm well aware that not every ship can have such a nice armor. Don't talking about those torpedos.
But maybe as a Bonus by reaching a higher Level. Some kind of special ability.

posted on February 9th, 2009, 4:47 pm

..or as a mixed tech special ship, there will be another borg avatar someday too nah, i don't know, i'd really like to have some canon information about what happened to that technology in the "real" timeline after voyager returned. it had the OMGLOL effect in endgame when it was being deployed, but also was kind of ridiculous, to have this armor pop out of nowhere. maybe a combination of mixed tech and rankup i just don't know...

posted on February 9th, 2009, 9:06 pm

Well what about just stander non future armer. May make the ship a bit darker and have it permanently fixed to the hall.

You could rite in to the story some where that the federations temporal mechanics oversight agency said it would hurt the time line so the feds band it.

But a lower quality version was developed out of current know technologies.

..or as a mixed tech special ship, there will be another borg avatar someday too nah, i don't know, i'd really like to have some canon information about what happened to that technology in the "real" timeline after voyager returned. it had the OMGLOL effect in endgame when it was being deployed, but also was kind of ridiculous, to have this armor pop out of nowhere. maybe a combination of mixed tech and rankup i just don't know...

posted on February 9th, 2009, 9:17 pm

Well what about just stander non future armer. May make the ship a bit darker and have it permanently fixed to the hall.

But a lower quality version was developed out of current know technologies.

Ships most likely already have armour (it's what stops them falling apart at the slightest thing)... Your suggestion would be... "more armour". =P
My point being, what would be the purpose in this? We already have ships with stronger or weaker hulls as it is...

[ewm90]

posted on February 9th, 2009, 9:20 pm

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yes

Like ablative plating seen on the defiant but a newer version plus Borg technologies.

posted on February 10th, 2009, 11:25 am

Ships most likely already have armour (it's what stops them falling apart at the slightest thing)...

That's the Structural Integrity Field, not many Starfleet ships have genuine 'armor'.

posted on February 10th, 2009, 3:34 pm

That's the Structural Integrity Field, not many Starfleet ships have genuine 'armor'.

No, I do not mean the SIF, I mean armour. All ships have it to some degree, just not necessarily a lot of it. Even the Federation would not be optimistic to rely 100% on the SIF, as what happens when you get a power drop? These ships are not made from just sheet metal, they'll be made of things a little thicker, I'd imagine. Sure the SIF is a very important piece of kit, and I'd think that any armour would have to be VERY good to do a better job than it, as the weapons used rip atoms apart, so anything made of atoms doesn't stand much of a chance...

So what I'm saying is, that any armour a ship might need, it already has. Stick with advancing shield tech, as physical armour is a dead end when you get weapons like phasers or disruptors hitting them.