Solution to all the Galaxy-X threads.

posted on August 31st, 2011, 10:54 pm

Phalanx is a FO ship? Wasn't the stand-alone Phalanx from A2Files around first?

posted on August 31st, 2011, 11:02 pm

Lol FO made it famous

posted on August 31st, 2011, 11:43 pm

The Solution to all Galaxy-X threads is to stop asking for a ridiculous ship that was just some Deus ex Machina in an alternate timeline that never really happened.

posted on September 1st, 2011, 12:17 am

If we get the Gal X, I get the J too! Oh and the Dauntless class! 

posted on September 1st, 2011, 12:31 pm

The Solution to all Galaxy-X threads is to stop asking for a ridiculous ship that was just some Deus ex Machina in an alternate timeline that never really happened.

What made the ship a Deus ex Machina? Killing some redshirts?

posted on September 1st, 2011, 5:22 pm

The Phalanx was actually designed by Dax Phoenix - Fleet Ops received permission at some point later to make a model of it, and the revamped model/texture will be going back to its roots. 

posted on September 2nd, 2011, 6:52 pm

If we get the Gal X, I get the J too! Oh and the Dauntless class!  

Yep, you ARE drunk.

posted on September 2nd, 2011, 7:49 pm

It would be funny to see the Dauntless class even though it was a fake federation design.

posted on September 2nd, 2011, 7:57 pm

An NPC-specific Borg unit with a steroid-abusing Transwarp, a nice addition that would be.

posted on September 2nd, 2011, 10:16 pm

It would be funny to see the Dauntless class even though it was a fake federation design.

You actually do see it fighting along side the Enterprise J in Enterprise.

Yep, you ARE drunk.

Drunk on how Beautiful the Enterprise J is. Ever since then I've been flying high! 

posted on September 2nd, 2011, 10:23 pm

What made the ship a Deus ex Machina? Killing some redshirts?

If you mean the Klingon ships, well an out of nowhere saving Picard from redshirts that are about to blast Picard to bits is Deus ex Machina.

posted on September 2nd, 2011, 10:31 pm

A Deus ex Machina is something more like Q appearing and erasing the Borg in BoBW pt2, the Galaxy-X bit was an excuse to get them on the Enterprise. If that was a Deus ex Machina, the Enterprise-E and Valiant would also count...

posted on September 3rd, 2011, 1:18 am

You actually do see it fighting along side the Enterprise J in Enterprise.
Drunk on how Beautiful the Enterprise J is. Ever since then I've been flying high! 

Don't drag the rest of us along in your bad trip. I'd sooner call a warthog beautiful than the Enterprise J.

[Nebula_Class_Ftw]

posted on September 3rd, 2011, 2:19 am

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Deus ex Machina applies to any situation where the characters are saved by something extremely unlikely given the story so far suddenly happening. The Enterprise E is not Deus ex Machina, but Picard telling the fleet where to hit so that suddenly their shots are effective is.
The Valiant at the beginning of that episode totally does count, and it's even worse I think since IIRC Riker knowing what Picard was up to had some logical precedence in the show (note that Riker showing up at exactly the right time and turning the conflict from one-sided favoring Klingons to one-sided favoring Picard almost instantly is what really puts it into Deus ex Machina.

Deus Ex Machina - Television Tropes & Idioms  
Valiant is type 1, Galaxy X is type 2 and possibly type 3 as well.
The TVTropes page for ass pull also has a good deinition: "An Ass Pull used to resolve an unwinnable situation for the protagonists is a Deus Ex Machina."

[Tyler]

posted on September 3rd, 2011, 1:49 pm

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Valient and Gal-X are the same, the only difference is that the Gal-X is actually established and has an in-story reason to be there (old crew loyalty and guilt for sending them to enemy space unguarded). Your post would include the Ent-E as it convieniently appeared just in time to save the Defiant, exactly the same as the Gal-X (aside from the improved success).

A more appropriate trope would be Big Damn Heroes. It was more like the Klingon arrival in Sacrifice of Angels, than the Prophet ass pull at the end (that is a true Deus ex Machina).

The 'Big heo' moment can be a Deus ex Machina when it's an anticimax, but killing redshirts early in (like the Gal-X was) isn't at the climax or every redshirt death in every show when someone's saved from danger would be a Deus ex Machina.