Romulan Inteligence center

posted on March 12th, 2009, 9:25 am

so heres 3 ideas for a new inteligence center ability

#1 creats a diversion of a large fleet of ships

#2 make the mini map not function, and show the same screen, allowing a fleet to slip undetected

#3 knocks out all cloak detection for 30 seconds, or sensors for 15

posted on March 12th, 2009, 10:01 am

#3 is a very good idea, put that on our internal ideas list. about 1 and 2 i am not sure. #2 sounds not bad, but maybe that's too annoying/powerful for your opponent, same goes for #1

posted on March 13th, 2009, 1:01 pm

The idea #2 is as much annoying as the infection by nanites. yust make it long enough to prepare an attack, but not too long, so the opponent will hav a chance to react.

#3: The first part is great, the second a little tooo unfair.

Btw. I think the upgrading of the intelligence center needs too much time. Inever managed to get a golden bar yet. What experiences do YOU have?

Who builds shrike class ships to this day? A rhienn refit is much more capable, and the spy is not that necessary, since you can spend 45 seconds to follow an enemy ship cloaked. I believe the shrike has to get some improvements like aditional spies (like one, that disables specific sub systems e.g. engines or life support).

posted on March 13th, 2009, 2:17 pm

The Shrike is also a very usefull vessel if you decide to chose a Cloaking Generator, but i will take a closer look to her

posted on March 13th, 2009, 3:46 pm

The idea #2 is as much annoying as the infection by nanites. yust make it long enough to prepare an attack, but not too long, so the opponent will hav a chance to react.

#3: The first part is great, the second a little tooo unfair.

Btw. I think the upgrading of the intelligence center needs too much time. Inever managed to get a golden bar yet. What experiences do YOU have?

Who builds shrike class ships to this day? A rhienn refit is much more capable, and the spy is not that necessary, since you can spend 45 seconds to follow an enemy ship cloaked. I believe the shrike has to get some improvements like aditional spies (like one, that disables specific sub systems e.g. engines or life support).

spies were useful in standard A2 when placed on a station. They used to reveal all enemy bases and LOS for a certain time.
Even when placed on an enemy sensor or turret it counted as a base.
That was what made the shrike very very useful and spy in particular.
If FO nerfed that, then the spy gets relegated to uselessness.

havent used a rommie spy on enemy bases in a while, so dont know if that is still there.

posted on March 13th, 2009, 4:39 pm

#3: The first part is great, the second a little tooo unfair.

oh, yea, i was referring to the first part also. globally disabled sensors would just be a pain in the ass, while i think the cloak detection override is *perfectly* fitting for the romulans.

posted on March 13th, 2009, 7:41 pm

@ Optec

Seems I didn't get something about the cloaking generator. What does it to in connection with the shrike class?

posted on March 13th, 2009, 7:50 pm

nothing special, but if you chose the cloaking generator you dont have spys from the intelligence center so the shrike spy comes in handy

[mimesot]

posted on March 13th, 2009, 8:15 pm

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But on the other hand i can use a talon as much efficent as that spy, because the enemy seldomly stuffs space with sensor stations. A shrike doesn't mean much af an advance to me. Though I always loved that ship, I never build it, because their ability doesn't compensate it's disadvantag compard to levathal or rhienn. But I can live without it, because the Rommies are wonderfully done, even without it.

Btw. That rhienn model is amazing, as i realized latly. 

PS.: Though the offencive stats of the shrike are quite high, it's not that handily

posted on March 13th, 2009, 11:38 pm

I just thought about it and it would be cool to add a little passive extra effect to the shrike to give her a better unit profile. will probably be in the next patch

Yep the Rhienn is one of the newer models, we are currently working on redos everywhere, if the day just would have 48 hours.. or better 72.. nah, that time thing again

posted on March 17th, 2009, 1:09 pm

What do other players prefer: Cloaking generator or Intelligence center?

Would be interesting to me, because I'd always take the later. Could th cloaking generator do something about the standard-cloaks? Perhaps one can research a faster decloaking time, whith the cloagking generator (Just slightly, otherwise the intelligence center will become uninviting again).

posted on March 17th, 2009, 4:22 pm

Why in the world would you buff up the shrike? As it stands its the best destroyer in the game :-S That ship is mean as hell at the beginning of the game, when it can take any other destroyer 1on1 without much difficulties. I say this based purely on the combat capabilities of the ship of course.
About the special weapon, while I remember that the spy was very useful I must also admit I havent used it in ages, so I dont know if anything has been changed. Saying that putting a spy on an enemy ship is just following the ship manually is falso though, if you really want to micro your ship to that extent, ok then, but IMO that takes you from your base too much. 

posted on March 17th, 2009, 8:24 pm

But on the other hand i can use a talon as much efficent as that spy, because the enemy seldomly stuffs space with sensor stations. A shrike doesn't mean much af an advance to me. Though I always loved that ship, I never build it, because their ability doesn't compensate it's disadvantag compard to levathal or rhienn. But I can live without it, because the Rommies are wonderfully done, even without it.

Btw. That rhienn model is amazing, as i realized latly. 

PS.: Though the offencive stats of the shrike are quite high, it's not that handily

The Shrike is far better than any other cloaked ship for spying. Get it's spy aboard a Starbase (unless FO changed it) and you will get the full line of sight for every ship and station that race has. Better than a Talon.

posted on March 17th, 2009, 8:36 pm

Starbase or just station? In armada2 it worked with a station, so you could see every vessel of that race. I haven't tried it with a starbase yet.

posted on March 17th, 2009, 8:39 pm

In stock, it only let me see the whole fleet from a Starbase. Normal stations only showed me that one.