review of borg assimilation idea

posted on May 29th, 2011, 9:02 pm

hi all

Some of u might have read a post i made a while ago called 'borg assimilation idea'  Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations - borg assimilation idea .

i would jus like to bring this topic back from the depths of the forums to every bodies attention. so that ppl can vote on the wanting the idea in the game or not.

Seeing as the borg are getting their redo, and we are starting to see the results of that redo(ie the adaptor etc) i thought it might be something that ppl would like to have in the game now. and hence by voting on it the devs can see the demand for the idea. and perhaps implement it.

since the adaptor got its makeover i thought that this might be a nice module to add to the adaptor or another ship. whatever makes it balanced.

basically i want ppl to vote for the concept of the idea. (ie that the borg get a weapon that can infect a ship with an assimilation virus and thus slowly converts that ship to borg player). in the original post ppl said the idea was OP, and sure that maybe so, but i dont want that to affect a players vote because as with all ideas that the devs implement they will find a way to make it balanced, so dont let that affect your vote.

on another note please dont let your faction loyalty affect your vote. so if your a big fed fanboy or something dont vote against the idea because u fear ur faction might lose its some of its strength against the borg. (ie be objective and unbiased please)

cool so let the voting the begin.

thanks for reading and feal free to comment on the idea. and please read the orginal post before u vote so can get a good feel for the idea.

[Lost_Spaceship]

posted on May 29th, 2011, 9:44 pm

Last edited by Lost_Spaceship on May 29th, 2011, 9:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

In Star Trek universe, there isn't another form of Borg infection than to be boarded by drones.
The drones board in your ship and infect the crew.

The weapon similar that you are talking about is the Holding Beam that transports drones gradually and hold your ship.

posted on May 29th, 2011, 9:52 pm

The Incubation Centre does the same thing for the Assimilate avatar, minus the holding in place.

posted on May 29th, 2011, 9:59 pm

The Incubation Centre does the same thing for the Assimilate avatar, minus the holding in place.

Yes, i forgot this. The Incubation Center.
A doubt, one Incubation Center assimilates slowly, but two or three assimilates faster??? Or any Incubation Center is Independent of other???

posted on May 29th, 2011, 10:00 pm

In Star Trek universe, there isn't another form of Borg infection than to be boarded by drones.
The drones board in your ship and infect the crew.

The weapon similar that you are talking about is the Holding Beam that transports drones gradually and hold your ship.

There is a mention of an infection weapon to be detonated in the atmosphere of a planet in the voyager episode Scorpion. Against vessels it would be either ineffective or overpowered in the sense that it couldn't be stopped.

I don't like either option so the holding beam is the way to go for me at least.

posted on May 30th, 2011, 12:11 pm

that was dark frontier not scorpion seven rejoined the collective and the queen was talking about using the virus on earth.

posted on May 30th, 2011, 2:30 pm

that was dark frontier not scorpion seven rejoined the collective and the queen was talking about using the virus on earth.

My mistake

posted on May 30th, 2011, 2:34 pm

My mistake

repent sinner, being wrong on the internet is the ultimate sin, within you lurks beelzebub, cast him forth from your orifices, purge yourself of evil.

posted on May 30th, 2011, 4:04 pm

repent sinner, being wrong on the internet is the ultimate sin, within you lurks beelzebub, cast him forth from your orifices, purge yourself of evil.

Speaketh the man who cannot see his own reflection in the mirror

posted on May 30th, 2011, 4:06 pm

Speaketh the man who cannot see his own reflection in the mirror

yeah and i cant order garlic bread with my pizza either

posted on May 30th, 2011, 4:06 pm

You say that like it's a bad thing...

posted on May 30th, 2011, 4:08 pm

how can you not like garlic bread? its awesome

what was that about borg assimilation ideas?

posted on May 30th, 2011, 4:30 pm

how can you not like garlic bread? its awesome

what was that about borg assimilation ideas?

We discovered a cure for assimilation: Garlic bread. We already knew Garlic was good for many things, but now it also proves to be the bane of the Borg.

posted on May 30th, 2011, 4:34 pm

how can you not like garlic bread? its awesome

Agree 100%


As for on topic discussion, personally I think that the holding beam simply needs a re-do, however I don't have any coherent idea on how to do that as of yet.

Past that, as already said the Borg infect ships by spamming drones onto a ship.

Just make a slight (based on chassis size, possibly module choice too) increase in boarding party strength, Borg ships should in essence ALL be troop ships.

Perhaps have a Borg version of the troop ship boarding special for the Borg race, call it assimilation, give it a custom button, and have it (for larger ships) disable the Borg ships engines, and put a holding beam (IE: Borg tractor beam, not the holding beam special) on the target vessel, and then began transpoting as soon as the target looses shields.

Prehaps even allow larger ships (with avatar/modules having a big impact on this) to use this on multiple targets at a time.

It'd take a lotta balance work to get fully intergrated, but it WOULD make the Borg feel a lot more, well, Borgish.

Past that, prehaps have assimilated vessels be upgradable by the Borg, minimal resource cost mostly just supply and prehaps a few CCs for larger ships, with the main cost being in the time it takes.

When upgraded, the ship gets a new fully assimilated texture, which is not lost if the vessel is later recaptured, as the vessel was in essence fully refitted/assimilated by the capturing Borg drones.

posted on June 2nd, 2011, 5:28 pm

The virus idea isn't bad, but there's one fundamental problem with it.

The Armada II engine isn't set up to have 2 different crew types on a single ship.  If you tried to "turn one crewmember into borg" what you're really doing is removing 2 crew, the one that died and the one that killed him because they cancel out on a 1 to 1 ratio.

Also boarding speed can't be increased because it stacks linearly.  If you increase boarding strength then 10 scubes can capture anything.  Perhaps if only the larger borg ships like cubes got increased boarding speed because they have more teleporters...