New Romulan Ship

posted on June 8th, 2009, 8:41 pm

Thank goodness... Say No to God Ships!...

It wasn't a godship, it was only powerful because it was in the 23rd Century. In it's home time, a few B'rel's would probably kill it.

posted on June 8th, 2009, 10:32 pm

No-one said it was a borg ship. In the Countdown Comics, which were part of the move franchise, the original tie-line story between nemesis and the hobus star supernova is explained. In that, a mining freighter called Narada was upgraded with borg tech. Maybe the comics aren't canon, but they are official. And why isn't canon open to interpretation anyway?
Nothing says it wasn't upgraded with Borg tech, and it certainly looks like the most valid explanation in the film.

posted on June 8th, 2009, 10:35 pm

but it's still ugly. not borg not Romulan.

[farshot]

posted on June 8th, 2009, 11:12 pm

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Here is what I think on the design of the Narada...  (This contains spoilers referring to the comic, Countdown, but about 99% is speculation on my part.)

The Borg received major setbacks in the 2370's.  2373, a Borg Queen was killed in an attempt to erase the Federation from history.  During the events of Armada I, an omega particle was detonated in the center of a unicomplex,  Armada II, devastation by an influx of Species 8472.  During the events of Legacy, another major setback.  Eventually, during their attempts to plague the galaxy, they must have encountered the Fen Domar, the empire that devastated Voyager's crew in the alternate future that Admiral Janeway averted.  Things were looking bleak.  Sometime during or after these events a realization must have come onto the Borg.  By having chaos, you achieve order.  This is the very way nature and the universe works.  It is only logical they would come to this conclusion.  The powers of the Alpha Quadrant had realized this, and they had survived.  Ordered chaos if you will.

Therefore, they changed their tactics.  They dropped the whole "order out of chaos" thing, and assumed a more chaotic approach.  There was a constant thing going on with the Borg, a machine vs. organism thing, evidenced by their cyborg existence.  But they had a little too much machine going on, especially shown by the wide-reaching virus that infected the collective, courtesy of Admiral Janeway.  Again, it is only logical that they would realize this flaw.

And so, their core philosophy changed, becoming more organic in nature, nature itself being organic.  Ship designs also changed.  Their need for perfection still remained, yet organic designs took hold.  One of these being the Borg Squid.

Instead of moving multi-directional, it now had a specific front.  It was much faster than any previous Borg design, with the tentacles aimed ahead.  Using these tentacles, it would attack enemy vessels, literally tearing them apart, recycling, and assimilating the ship and crew.  The massive internal bay facilitated storage and assimilation.  Entire fleets were destroyed by these new ships and tactics.  The hive of bees had become a swarm of wasps.

The Romulan Empire is in the Beta Quadrant, and as such, is the closest to the Borg Collective.  They encountered one of these squids, and captured it.  Being so technologically advanced, it was stored away in a secret facility, doomed to be recycled and digested into the Romulan technological pool.

When the Narada came seeking refit to wreak havoc upon the Alpha Quadrant powers, the Squid's parts were attached to it.  The Narada itself became integrated directly into the ship's superstructure, due to the vessel's assimilating nature.  Since it's uplink to the Collective was lost, it received manual input, a failsafe designed in case another communications demaging virus made its way into the network.  Therefore, some of the systems were now operable.

Two of the primary systems however were not compatible.  The weapons systems - which drew on mysterious Borg power sources, and the large tentacles.  The Narada's native weapon systems - the massive mining drill, and the bombs used to break up asteroids to gain access to the resources inside - were instead used.  Internal systems - such as one tentacle which was used to impale General Worf when he beamed aboard - were still somewhat functioning.  Most of it was gutted though, things that didn't matter to the Romulans, such as the regeneration alcoves.

posted on June 8th, 2009, 11:39 pm

That sounds pretty cool! perhaps we could have that integrated into the FO storyline somehow... it would be cool to see some organic yet borgy designs!

posted on June 9th, 2009, 12:03 am

lol, you should write star trek scripts, you seem to have a much better grasp on it than say... the writers for voyager

posted on June 9th, 2009, 12:27 am

It would be cool to see some organic yet borgy designs!

My thoughts exactly.

lol, you should write star trek scripts, you seem to have a much better grasp on it than say... the writers for voyager

It's too bad I'm 16 years old, because by the time I'm at a ripe age, Star Trek would be dead again.

Also, nice to see another Century Class fan!

posted on June 9th, 2009, 12:42 am

lol, you should write star trek scripts, you seem to have a much better grasp on it than say... the writers for voyager

Hey Man, Don't dis Voyager!  It was written just as well as ds9.  If you want to talk about bad writing, talk about Enterprise and the xyndi.

posted on June 9th, 2009, 12:52 am

Warp 10 anyone?

posted on June 9th, 2009, 12:53 am

I thought that show was removed from canon... was it not?

posted on June 9th, 2009, 2:22 am

Awesome farshot, I'm 16 too Good to see that there's more of us teenage Trekkers than I thought. And especially cool that you like found fleet ops.

(Threshold was the worst episode of star trek ever. Full stop. Period.)

Awesome theory on the squid btw.

posted on June 9th, 2009, 1:18 pm

Wait... if it is a design from an Alternate reality. Than the actuall design could in favt be very different. Then it could be at least a somewhat different design because one thing I learned is that in alternate realities designs are different around. I'm not sure if others noticed, but in DS9 when the Ferengi crossed over. The Negh'Var was quite different in some details. And the Defiant... it had a phaser that the one in the "actual reality" didn't, that Dorsal array to be exact. So there can be some changes to make everyone happy! 

posted on June 9th, 2009, 3:48 pm

The narada is not from an alternate reality. The narada created an alternate reality after it traveled back.

But it's still ugly. and not borg in design.

posted on June 9th, 2009, 3:55 pm

And the Defiant... it had a phaser that the one in the "actual reality" didn't, that Dorsal array to be exact. So there can be some changes to make everyone happy! 

That Defiant was identical to the prime one in every way, it was designed from the very same specs.