New Rom Intel Center Idea

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 4:20 am

So I came up with a new idea for the romulan Intel Center. It would be a new special that dispatches an agent to an enemy ship and he would hitchhike along for at least 30 seconds at which time if another enemy ship is in range it transports to it. On leaving one vessel for another he may leave behind a surprise in order to keep the crew distracted, something like a bomb or a virus (all this can do is either destroy or disable a ships subsystem) While the agent is on board he will transmit the ships sensor info and location.  If he stays on a ship for too long he assumes he has been discovered the agent will kill himself and try to destroy some of the ships subsystems. The factors that will prevent an agent from leaving a ship are no vessels in range and having the cloak raised. In order to make it just a little more interesting that just point and click send the agent, perhaps the agent would have to be transported to the location by a romulan ship, and in order to board the first enemy vessel it would have to have it shields down. Id love to hear some feedback on this.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 5:53 am

the only thing i find wrong with the intel center is the amount of time one can place temp spies within the special energy usage, and the same for the sabotage, there has to be some sort of cooldown added to it to make it a lot less exploitable. i have seen first hand how much trouble an intel center is worth on a mp game.

this idea that you have come up with doesnt change anything and there is already a sabotage ability so i dont see why there needs to be a mixed spy and sabotage unless its expensive on special energy and have it success based, otherwise it would be even more exploitable.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 7:27 am

My problem with the intel center is that the damned thing keeps putting agents on stations, and then burning off my supply like mad on sabotage-proof stations when I'm desperately trying to sabotage that Tac-Cube that's eating my base.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 10:01 am

My problem with the intel center is that the damned thing keeps putting agents on stations, and then burning off my supply like mad on sabotage-proof stations when I'm desperately trying to sabotage that Tac-Cube that's eating my base.

good, using the intel centre against the borg is nothing less than cheating. it has been known for a long time that using sabotage against borg is an exploit, no respectable player should use it without agreement from the opponent.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 7:02 pm

problem with that is, you got a dominion player who is a much bigger threat then the borg player and the romulan player combined, how do you expect to get sabotage efforts. i still dont understand how its cheating when using it against the borg.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 7:10 pm

the borg have naturally few ships, each one is very very expensive and represents a large amount of resources and power.

how on earth (or any other m class planet) is it balanced to simply blow one of those ships up? a common midgame fleet for the borg is 3 spheres and a diamond. imagine your horror if 1 of those died and you didnt get a single kill in return for it. and the intel centre if built in your base could kill several ships before your enemy could get near you. using the spy ability isnt op, using sabotage is.

if you are in a game with some borg opponents and some non borg then you have no choice, you CANNOT use sabotage and call yourself a reputable player. it is completely unfair.

its cheating

just as if you used polaron field or force fired em scube on friendly ships etc

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 7:16 pm

It's also cruel. The player spends all that time and resorces getting the biggest and baddest ship in the game, sends it to the base with a modest support fleet and *BOOM*. No more hard earned Cube, no chance to defend itself.

On a related note, I still want to know how they got a sleeper agent on Borg ships and stations in the first place... I think the Borg would notice a drone they couldn't hear.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 7:18 pm

it depends, it has been clearly shown that unless u attack them the borg wont perceive u as a threat and attack. maybe the romulans were able to access sensors without the borg perceiving them as a threat.

even if the borg knew the romulans were spying on them, would it bother them? the borg have never been sneaky, its possible they dont care if you know where their fleet is, wont stop them coming and assimilating you 

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 7:22 pm

it depends, it has been clearly shown that unless u attack them the borg wont perceive u as a threat and attack. maybe the romulans were able to access sensors without the borg perceiving them as a threat.

even if the borg knew the romulans were spying on them, would it bother them? the borg have never been sneaky, its possible they dont care if you know where their fleet is, wont stop them coming and assimilating you 

doubtful, accessing borg systems within different priority sections, such as sleep cycle for the drone is next to no priority, sensor systems could be high priority and romulan would be a drone within a few minutes and all his intelligence no less.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 7:26 pm

where do you base that claim? we saw enterprise personnel walk about a cube actively scanning the ship with tricorders and no response from the borg.

if a spy accessed the sensors but didnt disrupt the functions of the ship the borg may not consider them a threat. as they arent able to stop assimilation, just watch it happening from a different angle lol.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 7:28 pm

I think he means systems that could be a problem if an enemy understands it's workings.

Looking at information on their weapons and similar systems is likely to get their attention. They know adaption well enough to be careful with things that could be used against them.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 7:55 pm

it depends, a spy would presumably be careful. if they only accessed the sensors, and i mean just viewed them and didnt interfere with operation the borg might not conisder that a threat.

its quite possible that the romulans found a way to go undetected without serious scrutiny (such as the player looking at the display ) the hansens did it and they were a couple of civilians without the support of an empire.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 8:29 pm

And they were assimilated.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 8:34 pm

i based that claim on tng best of both worlds towards the end as the borg cube was about to attack earth, data couldnt access most systems and picard pointed at the regeneration system, data said it was low priority.

besides that there is plenty of proof from season 4 onwards of voyager, the borg regeneration alcoves remain and are easily accessible. so if you were a spy, on a borg ship, it would just as easily be accessible.

posted on May 23rd, 2010, 8:37 pm

And they were assimilated.

Hardly their fault (in a way). Their ship was damaged by a 'subspace particle storm' and became visible for a very brief time, just long enough for the Borg to notice a ship they previously ignored had found a way to hide from them.

Not a good thing.