Cube crew

posted on August 24th, 2010, 4:39 pm

Memory Alpha:
5,000 would be sufficient to assimilate ships, stations and outposts. That crew size would explain why the Borg sometimes use entire fleets of Cubes to attack planets.

Memory alpha doesnt always base its statistics on facts, i dont recall seven saying 5000 but if she did then my mistake but never in startrek did anyship encounter a cube with any less than 15,000 drones.

The reason for mass cube attacks is likely to be because planetary assimlitions happen mostly in the delta quadrant which is where the borg are.... everything would finish up alot faster if the borgs enemy was subdued and assimilated faster.

I saw the episode of voyager where is showed like 8 tactical cubes assimilating 1 planet and destroying some poor impulse ships.

posted on August 24th, 2010, 5:08 pm

MA uses canon and 'accepted' facts, if the source is cited then it's reliable. If it gives a crew size and then says the episode that where it came from, then it came from the show. It isn't wikipedia, the non-canon and uncited is removed (most of the time).

The reason for mass cube attacks was never explained in the show, but lower crew would explain why they sent hundreds of cubes to assimilate a defeated homeworld that had no more defences. The Borg don't speed things up, they don't get impatient and know they have time to spare (they don't actually care about how long it takes).

posted on August 24th, 2010, 7:38 pm

MA uses canon and 'accepted' facts, if the source is cited then it's reliable. If it gives a crew size and then says the episode that where it came from, then it came from the show. It isn't wikipedia, the non-canon and uncited is removed (most of the time).

The reason for mass cube attacks was never explained in the show, but lower crew would explain why they sent hundreds of cubes to assimilate a defeated homeworld that had no more defences. The Borg don't speed things up, they don't get impatient and know they have time to spare (they don't actually care about how long it takes).

Actually iv seen alot of crap on memory alpha that is just dreamed up bs from some startrek fanboy, i know this because i remember reading a few things on there a while back and it said it came from an episode i watched just 5 mins ago and it isnt what was said.

That said ill go with it 5k what ever, but i was citing logic on the rest my last post , no it wasnt mentioned why so many borg ships were attacking a homeworld but it wasnt defeated not in the episode i was watching anyway, there were 7 tactical cubes thats a far cry from 100 and they were being attacked by a number of small craft which to me looked like impulse ships, i can only assume that the borg did indeed want to speed things up... data has no perception of time but the borg are not completely robotic so might do... other than them needing all those cubes to help assimilate a planet of at least a billion life forms its the only logical reason i can think of.

Alot of what happens in startrek has to be conclueded by logic or reasoning as alot of things are never discussed in the show.

[Tyler]

posted on August 24th, 2010, 7:44 pm

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Pretty much everything I've seen on the many pages I browse (I get sidetracked alot) is cited. Uncited crap is removed when it cannot be proven. Even the best free-edit site will always have that problem, unfortunatly.

Did I say I was talking about that battle? I was talking about species 116 that Arturis, the creator of the USS Dauntless, came from.

No Tactical cubes were used in that battle, only regulars and a Diamond.

posted on August 24th, 2010, 7:51 pm

No Tactical cubes were used in that battle, only regulars and a Diamond.

isnt it funny that just like in fleetops everyone goes for the diamond. its tempting to keep diamonds locked up in your base.

[quaddmgtech]

posted on August 24th, 2010, 7:51 pm

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Alot of what happens in startrek has to be conclueded by logic or reasoning as alot of things are never discussed in the show.

The validity of Reasoning and logic based on the 'realities' of an imagined science fiction universe will likely always be called into question; therefore all we have is what has been written/stated/seen in the films/shows and official literature; the rest is anyone's guess.

posted on August 24th, 2010, 7:52 pm

The borg do have a perception of time because they value "efficiency" efficiency is: "skillfulness in avoiding wasted time and effort; "she did the work with great efficiency"

posted on August 24th, 2010, 7:55 pm

The borg do have a perception of time because they value "efficiency" efficiency is: "skillfulness in avoiding wasted time and effort; "she did the work with great efficiency"

Good point Ducky, BTW the pic in your sig is broken.

posted on August 24th, 2010, 7:57 pm

The Borg are as efficient as the Vulcans are humble.

posted on August 24th, 2010, 8:25 pm

Also, we humans are the ones who equate efficiency with speediness. Not all other races/lifeforms necessarily share this ideology.

posted on August 25th, 2010, 3:49 am

Also, we humans are the ones who equate efficiency with speediness. Not all other races/lifeforms necessarily share this ideology.

Very well put. Besides someone tell me out there where they state that all cubes are the same size, to my knowlege there isnt any standard as to how big a cube is, maybe the borg have smaller cubes that ony requre a crew of 5,000 drones. Or hell maybe they send out a cube with ony 5,000 drones leaving all that extra empty space for "new recruits". After a few years of wandering a cubes population would likely grow significantly. 

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:21 pm

Very well put. Besides someone tell me out there where they state that all cubes are the same size, to my knowlege there isnt any standard as to how big a cube is, maybe the borg have smaller cubes that ony requre a crew of 5,000 drones. Or hell maybe they send out a cube with ony 5,000 drones leaving all that extra empty space for "new recruits". After a few years of wandering a cubes population would likely grow significantly. 

Confirmed as 28 cubic kilometers in dark frontier and in best of both worlds when they saw the cube picard asked if it was the same ship, data scanned the cube data and said hes not sure but the demensions are identical.

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:44 pm

Confirmed as 28 cubic kilometers in dark frontier and in best of both worlds when they saw the cube picard asked if it was the same ship, data scanned the cube data and said hes not sure but the demensions are identical.

Yeah your point? In bobw the cube was likey the same one encountered in system J25, so if it somehow changed size that would be a bit strange, and as far as dark frontier so what, that doesnt mean that ALL cubes are the same dimentions. Also if its a 3km cube shouldnt it be 27 cubic km anyway? 3x3x3= 27 last i saw, somewhow they fit an extra square km in there somewhere.

posted on August 25th, 2010, 4:49 pm

just some facts didnt say they were all the same size but at least 2 were )

posted on August 25th, 2010, 5:01 pm

The explanation for the giant swarm of cubes to take out a race's homeworld that I came up with is 'they were resisting effectively'.  Thus, the Borg stepped up the firepower to the point where resistance really was futile, in order to get the tech that was letting them resist.