Cardassians in an alliance - noxter or Ciadan?

posted on May 21st, 2009, 11:36 pm

accepted by wiki and it seems your standers not my standers. I accept a high level of accuracy.

Some stuff on wiki is on the mark some isn't its hard to pick out fact from fantasy when you don't know what the facts are.

posted on May 21st, 2009, 11:48 pm

They have only information from onscreen and backstage, a relativly small number of accepted sources (tech manuals, mainly) and no speculation or fanmade stuff. The fact that it is a wiki isn't important, the rules it uses on adding information is.

Or do you know of a more reliable site than Memory Alpha?

posted on May 22nd, 2009, 1:54 am

Its not about more or less reliable so match as it is, is it accurate or not and is not always accurate. I can can not pick out what's true and or not.

What I can speak for is the Cardys are much weaker technology then the federation's basted on this I would say in a head to head match it would make the Cardys canon foter.

The cards are recovering from a manger loss and there for don't have allot of ships so straight in numbers would not come in to play very much.

The Keldon witch is a match for Arika or even the defiant if taken of guard and thats there strongest ship.

[Tyler]

posted on May 22nd, 2009, 10:47 am

Last edited by Tyler on May 22nd, 2009, 11:01 am, edited 1 time in total.

Well, Memory Alpha has canon stuff (from show, movies and background sources) in the main section of a page and any 'accepted extras' in a seperate section at the bottom of the page. Anything not supported by the show is always removed (eventually), accuracy is considered important there. Anything else goes on Memory Beta.

Your logic about the fighting almost sounds like 'the power of the gun is more important than how it is used'. The Cardassians were able to fight the Federation to a stalemate and hold off the Klingons until the Dominion arrived to help (after recovering from the initial strike). Cunning and the ability to face death without fear can make even the most primitve empire dangerous. Even the Talarians fought well against Starfleet because of cunning tactics, and their tech makes the Cardassians look like the 29th century Federation!

posted on May 22nd, 2009, 11:37 am

In the show the Cardassians have proven to have worthy technology. Their yards were quite impressive, and after all the Alliance only won cause the Cardassians switched sides in the final battles. Their technology might not be that advanced, however, a sword can still kill you today (yea i must admit it will get a hard job if wearing cevlar, but you got my picture ). Photon Torpedoes for example are over 100 years old now and can still destroy a galaxy. When designing Cardassian units i wouldn't give them uber System values. Perhaps a similar lineup like Klingons, with a better balance between Offensive and Defensive.

About Memory Alpha, i think there is a little missunderstanding. A Wiki is a technology (well made by the guys who keep wikipedia running), not a standard for calssifing information. If we would make a wiki about the Fleet Operations story it would be 100% accurate, as we made it up ourselves Memory Alpha is probably the most accurate source out there for Star Trek, as it only uses the shows and a few selected (and official) books. Of course none can garantee for something to be accurate, but thats another problem you will always face as long as you dont only beliefe what you have seen and touched. Well, and even then the recognized reality is not the physical reality so you can be never sure and.. okay thats taking to far. I think Memory Alpha is a good source for Trek information

posted on May 22nd, 2009, 11:55 pm

Thats true Optec Its about as good as it gets. Star trek logic well is illogical. So how too say hows right and hows off the mark or witch mark.... Its so confusing.

I take star trek too seriously. 

Lay of the star trek ewm90  Come on one more hit...

posted on May 24th, 2009, 10:07 pm

Even if the Cardys are teamed with any race it would make them weaker not stronger. The Cardys ships are basted on week tech witch would likely cost allot to make.

Any race how had them in there ranks would probably see them a problem rather then a asset.

Well, not unless the advantage of allying with the Cardassians was the promise of some cheaper (than the other races), more agile and faster building ships. If the Feds are defensive in FO, then the cardys would be a mix with low values all around (but esp. system). Just like Optec said

posted on May 24th, 2009, 10:50 pm

Well they have low shielding and poor weaapons, but the ship is known to be operable even when the hooker is held together with a few fires. So, if implemented, the races main feature should be, that they always find a way to retreat.

posted on May 25th, 2009, 2:00 am

Well they have low shielding and poor weaapons, but the ship is known to be operable even when the hooker is held together with a few fires.

posted on May 25th, 2009, 2:03 am

Cardassian ships are not very advanced, but their weapons can pack a wallop. The Galor Class is a seious threat to anything ranked lower than a Galaxy or Nebula Class.

posted on May 25th, 2009, 3:20 am

Oh thanks his wording just doesnt make sense to me.....