Breen ships too slow but in DS9 very fast

posted on September 7th, 2010, 2:12 pm

Really? I wasn't aware the S-2 was lost in spaaaace 

true, but combat uses of the s2 are limited to hard countering usually. a fleet of s2 rarely cuts the mustard. i prefer to think of them as support ships, as thats what they usually do  :D

in fact we could make the c11 a real combat ship with stats and make the s2 a support ship with some specials from the c11.

posted on September 7th, 2010, 2:21 pm

You'd be surprised how fast a fleet of S-2 can chop up Frigate refits . Heck, the past month has seen an uncontrollable amount of whining on Tunngle about how strong the S2 is against other units (including Borg, if you remember what spilled onto the forums a few days ago). You are correct though, a fleet of most shorties/longies is generally not the best average fleet - that's what mediums are for afterall 

posted on September 7th, 2010, 2:36 pm

Yep... this is a balanced fleet.

80 Bugs
50 S-2s
30 T-15s
15 V-13s
10 Breen Warships -OR- 8 S-7s
50 A-22s
6 B-8s
4 Fighter Carrier thingies
20 A-4s (Scout spam; for scouting ahead)
130 Sensor Pings at the ready
And 1 Pleased Changeling watching from his/her command ship.

posted on September 7th, 2010, 2:42 pm

s-2 does great against assim only because people wont consider that assimilate avatar has ships other than the assimilator lol. thats not cos the s2 is op, thats cos people are inflexible. otherwise s2 should stay in its escorting role and make everything else do +30%

posted on September 7th, 2010, 2:45 pm

It always depends on the situation - if your opponent is fielding a fleet of Cehlaer, or Rhienn etc - I'd stay with an S-2 fleet. If they have K'Vorts, I wouldn't produce those S-2 (though I wouldn't be producing much of a medium range fleet either)

Incidentally, people were complaining about "S-2 om nom noming SCubes" 

posted on September 7th, 2010, 2:49 pm

well if they are spamming one range of ship then the s2 is a hard counter. which i excluded earlier. if your enemy spams bugs then u can spam supports, but a fleet of supports isnt really a good idea otherwise.

other than hard counters the only use for s2 is really support, which is fine as its an escort cruiser, it shouldnt be doing the work itself.

lol s2 munching scubes

posted on September 7th, 2010, 5:16 pm

while I agree that inconsistent Star Trek isnt enough proof to make it rocket but making super slow based on absolutely nothing is less "right".Like I said,it dont need to be rocket,but not giving 15%-20% boost in speed its sin aggaist Star Trek and if this wonderfull series of movies and serials didnt existed,this game would never exist at the first place.I believe the ships should be more or less like we saw it in TV... not exact copies,but similiar in alot way.   

One thing you do see more consistently in Trek is the larger the ship, the slower it is.  This also tends to be the case with modern vehicles of war.

posted on September 7th, 2010, 5:19 pm

That only seemed consistent for aliens, considering what the Galaxy and Sovereign are shown to be capable of when not in too crowded an area. Starfleet's probably just an exception, though.

posted on September 7th, 2010, 6:11 pm

well if they are spamming one range of ship then the s2 is a hard counter. which i excluded earlier. if your enemy spams bugs then u can spam supports, but a fleet of supports isnt really a good idea otherwise.

other than hard counters the only use for s2 is really support, which is fine as its an escort cruiser, it shouldnt be doing the work itself.

lol s2 munching scubes

S-2 and Negh Var are biggest DPS dealers for the price.I win many time with just 6-8 super early s-2,for the price the DPS is crazy not talking about ketracel boost.That borg mixed tech S-2 is even bigger killa,longer lasting boost with zero deaths for crew

[dob]

posted on September 7th, 2010, 6:14 pm

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Look at that ship in comparison to the defiant its really not that much bigger, why do you assume that its the battleship?

its too small to be battleship but defiant that is two times smaller is ok for it to be battleship? lol


search the internet,theres many things there about Breen Battleship/Warship,but its crew is too big,for ship of this size   250-350 would be much more accurate

posted on September 7th, 2010, 6:47 pm

S-2 and Negh Var are biggest DPS dealers for the price.I win many time with just 6-8 super early s-2,for the price the DPS is crazy not talking about ketracel boost.That borg mixed tech S-2 is even bigger killa,longer lasting boost with zero deaths for crew

against the ai u can do that, but try it against a human player online and you will realise that u cant spam s2 to victory.