assimilated ships

posted on January 19th, 2010, 9:16 pm

That's a phenomenal example, really.  They took a barely armed vessel that was limited to either warp 1 or 2, and in a short span of time made it as fast as starfleet's fastest vessel, well armed and armored, and were continuing to upgrade it.

posted on January 19th, 2010, 9:18 pm

Makes you wonder what a Sovereign, Tavara or Negh'Var would actually be like if they did upgrade it... without game-required balance like in the show.

posted on January 19th, 2010, 9:29 pm

Makes you wonder what a Sovereign, Tavara or Negh'Var would actually be like if they did upgrade it... without game-required balance like in the show.

Scary...

posted on January 19th, 2010, 11:41 pm

I'm not particularly experienced in the inner working of FO but from what I understand, it seems like it could be possible to add the Borg specials directly to the ships of other races but simply "hide" them from there owning race and show them only if the Borg assimilate their ship. Is that right? If so, wouldn't it allow for the Borg to have assimilation specific specials?

Anyway, I just had a thought. To promote the whole gradual assimilation thing, how about having a  ranking system similar to the regular races to show a gradual increase in power but specific only to assimilated ships. I mean, that essentially how the ranking system works anyway. Instead of calling it ranking, it could be levels of assimilation. As a given ship kills more a more ships, it become more and more assimilated. Upon a level up it's model could be shown with greater degrees of Borg appendages, eventually covering most or all of the ship.

[Dominus_Noctis]

posted on January 19th, 2010, 11:51 pm

Last edited by Dominus_Noctis on January 19th, 2010, 11:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Well, hate to break it to you fellows (for the second time it seems), but Borg will not get an experience system 

EDIT: though I do hope that the assimilated vessels get something more special than just looks

posted on January 20th, 2010, 12:01 am

Well, hate to break it to you fellows (for the second time it seems), but Borg will not get an experience system 

We don't mean an expereance system in the normal way. only assimilated vessels would have this definitly not cubes or anything. it would be more of a way to show that the longer an assimilated ship is around the more the borg modify it and power it up. but I think the Idea of race owner changeing the ship better. but it sounds like the dev. have their own ideas

Makes you wonder what a Sovereign, Tavara or Negh'Var would actually be like if they did upgrade it... without game-required balance like in the show.

as far as that it concerned, you have to think about how the drones got on earth in that ENT show. they were there from the ship that was destoyed in first contact, so the drones had all the knowlage and information of the enterprise E era, so that is why they were able to power up such a lame ship so much. I mean to us even NX-01 tech is super powerfull, so if  we got our hands on somthing from that time it would be all powerfull. simular to a gun to people in the dark ages

posted on January 20th, 2010, 12:13 pm

as far as that it concerned, you have to think about how the drones got on earth in that ENT show. they were there from the ship that was destoyed in first contact, so the drones had all the knowlage and information of the enterprise E era, so that is why they were able to power up such a lame ship so much. I mean to us even NX-01 tech is super powerfull, so if  we got our hands on somthing from that time it would be all powerfull. simular to a gun to people in the dark ages

The Borg are actually far superior to the Federation in any era. The only ships they can't upgrade to a quite noticable level are ones more advanced than theirs, a group with only contains 8472 ships.

posted on January 21st, 2010, 4:17 am

The Borg are actually far superior to the Federation in any era. The only ships they can't upgrade to a quite noticable level are ones more advanced than theirs, a group with only contains 8472 ships.

yes that is true. but, the borg of fleetops woulden't be abble to upgrade a freighter to make it more powerfull then a sovern. but borg of the 35th century would be able to make the freighter more powerfull then any cube in existance in the fleetops era!

posted on August 10th, 2010, 5:17 am

In the episode of Voyager where they formed an alliance with the borg, the borg upgraded Voyager's systems and defenses. Voyager had borg armor and it looked like the torpedoes were of borg origin as well. So we do know that the borg assimilate other ships and enhance the ships' technology with their own technology.

posted on August 10th, 2010, 1:16 pm

borg ships arent THAT powerfull btw. You gotta calculate with there size. Build a ship with romulan/fed/klingon technology that has the size of a cube. It will almost certainly be able to eradicate some fleets too.
Remember: the big cubes have a size of 25km³
most fleets dont have that much mass, even if you add all ships together.
So Borg are powerfull, but not that mega super powerfull. Also they are advanced, but not that advanced that they could turn a scout into a battleship.

Which brings me to another point:
Borg adapt the ships so far that the borg consider em as efficient. So it could be that the shields get after a long while turned into a adaptive shield like the borg vessels, but also having then a way stronger hull. On the other hand they could mount graviton torpedo launcher. So in the end u get a borg ship.

in that way it would make sense, at least for me 

posted on August 13th, 2010, 2:22 pm

Well, a Cube is not just a Cube it is a cit, with construction abilities, with research centers, with repair-bays, docking ports for spheres and so on. Most of the cube is... vacuum and place for other ships like spheres. Only a tiny part of the cube is really build for combat. IF the borg would build a pure combat cube, then your 25km³ would cost 100.000 dil and 100.000 tri and 100.000 supplies, because it would just destroy everything and would be invincible.

posted on August 13th, 2010, 3:48 pm

is it only fed ships that get borg textures when assimilated

posted on August 13th, 2010, 4:42 pm

No, they're just the most important. So they are done first.

posted on August 13th, 2010, 4:48 pm

ok thanks

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posted on August 16th, 2010, 5:31 am

I think the fully assimilated vessels should have...
- Green deflectors, nacelles, like they already have
- Ship hull covered in those weird things that look like spiders
- Windows turned a darkish green or blacked out (from what I remember, the borg ships are fairly dark inside)
- Maybe some borg torpedo launchers or phaser arrays mounted on the outside
- I like the "more assimilated over time" idea, if that can be implemented that would be pretty neat. But it seems like that would require some sort of ranking system for the Borg.

Anyways, I think the idea of assimilated ships having modules is great, imagine having a federation ship with an auto-assimilator on it!