8 nacelle sovvy

posted on April 2nd, 2012, 10:31 pm

now the Oberth class with 6 worp engines now thats a idea!  ::)

posted on April 3rd, 2012, 7:22 am

Actually there is a cruiser in star trek online which has 8 nacelles, but they are paired and stuck together so it gives the impression of being only 4 of them.

posted on April 3rd, 2012, 8:33 am

Actually there is a cruiser in star trek online which has 8 nacelles, but they are paired and stuck together so it gives the impression of being only 4 of them.

That's the reson I don't play sto. :-)

posted on April 3rd, 2012, 9:06 am

Is that a Fed ship? I've never seen one like that...

posted on April 3rd, 2012, 11:39 am

That's the reson I don't play sto. :-)

and the reason why I actually shelled out real money and got an Excelsior rather than use a Cheyenne or any other of those hideous 4 nacelled things.

Although, there are ships that look good with more than 2 nacelles. I think the Galaxy-X has it's place, and older ships like the Yamato, Federation, and Missouri don't look overdone (and from a lore perspective, kind of make sense. Warp technology was less advanced compared to TNG, ergo if you have a ship the size of a Yamato you'd need that amount of warp nacelles to project a big enough and powerful enough warp bubble. As time and technology progressed, larger ships could be built with few numbers of more powerful nacelles. Again, compare the Federation Class to the Excelsior. Excelsior has some pretty big, powerful engines compared to those on the Federation.)

posted on April 3rd, 2012, 6:14 pm

I'm actually rather fond of the constellation.

But in general I can't think of many designs that I favour with multiple nacelles, I don't really like the prommie, or the nebula design. It's not that I would never like ships with 4 warp nacelles, but in general I'm fine with there being only two. But even if we got a fleet of nicely drawn ships with 4 warp nacelles, hard to see a real way of getting upwards of 8 or dozens of nacelles without it really being ridiculous. Even with sci-fi arguments of size and shape and number, would just seem weird.

Even I thought up a four-nacelle warp ship in my younger days, it was a ship that had two on the upper half, and two on the bottom half, and had two hulls and a saucer section that could split in half horizontally. After it split, you had two functioning ships each with their own warp-drive capabilities. So for that reason, I might get on board with ships with four nacelles so that after saucer separation both could still go to warp.

In general, aside from constellation, multiple nacelles seems weird. If they are just big targets two blow up your ships, I think giving your enemy two targets is bad enough. Don't need more. Even if its 8 small nacelles vs 2 big nacelles, still seems off.

posted on April 3rd, 2012, 7:27 pm

So many Starfleet ships have 2 nacelles that 1, 3 or 4+ is a nice change from the standard.

They always seem to be such low-priority targets, I'm not sure it's really any worse to be there than anywhere else. At least not when hit by weapons instead of ships...

posted on April 3rd, 2012, 10:26 pm

I loved the original Stargazer model, exactly like James said it makes sense for a lower tech level, almost like a biplane compared to modern aircraft.  I don't know why STO decided to butcher the design so badly, when they could have kept the original Stargazer and added in two crazy variants of their own.

I also don't have a problem with the advanced science ships sporting 3 nacelles, although I wouldn't want it to become a widespread layout.  The advanced tacticals look okay with 4, but I can't shake the feeling that they could have been cooler with those same 4 nacelles.  Like if they were all in a line or a trapezoid formation instead of a square.

posted on April 4th, 2012, 5:39 pm

The cheyene was at wolf 359, that's why they added it! but given their affinity for much older ships it would make more sence to add the stargazer yes...

posted on April 4th, 2012, 6:03 pm

Of the older ship classes they haven't added yet, I'd rather they prioritise the Ambassador. Both the version that was on film and, as a second skin, the version that is in the Ships of the Line 2012 calendar.

The reason? It was one of the Enterprises.

posted on April 4th, 2012, 7:14 pm

Lol it appeared in only one episode as far as i recall, but the stargazer was in 2 or more and in multiple games!

posted on April 4th, 2012, 7:18 pm

If Memory Alpha is to be believed, they both appeared in four episodes each:

Ambassador class - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

Constellation class - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

posted on April 5th, 2012, 8:44 am

You may be right! But the ambassador is shown from such funky corners so its hard to recognize him.

posted on April 5th, 2012, 1:15 pm

I wonder what the opinion on multiple nacelles would be like if the creators of Star Trek started it earlier and featured ships with it more.

posted on April 6th, 2012, 8:50 am

I don't know, but i can tell you this: Gene Rodenberry was more concerned with the morality of the startrek era rather than the designs themselves. It wouldn't have bothered him if enterprise had 200 nacelles!