3rd borg avatar

posted on May 9th, 2010, 8:58 pm

I thought this deserved its own post, so assuming that races get 3rd avatars heres my idea for 3rd borg avatar.

Either a lore or hue avatar, maybe for this avatar the adaptor would get a bonus seeing as this is the episode where we saw it, im at loss for other ideas for the avatar, maybe somone can help me.

posted on May 9th, 2010, 8:59 pm

sry for double post, but what could be cool about this, is that it wouldnt be a collective type deal, the borg that are disconnected fear for there lives and have emotions, so it could change the way the ships operate or somthing like that

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:01 pm

sounds like an interessting idea

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:04 pm

well my thinking is just that, as a section 31 avatar, would add a different side to federation, a lore or hue could add an interesting side to the borg, as it would be not the normal borg way of doing things, maybe we would see new ship designs, one not so cubical or spherical, the ships could be more designed like the adaptor, still with borg principals, but with new, more individual ideas, maybe ships with more support ships roles, i just think it could be a fun way, to expand the borg and reveal them in a different light, that is all

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:06 pm

Lore and Hugh ran the same small group. They could be a good avatar; a group of relativly friendly Borg that the Federation could trade with... Great allies against conventional Borg, too.

If the Borg Cooperative ever managed to develop past the poverty-like state they were in, they could make decent 'good' Borg as well.

Bouth groups power and tech would be similar to the normals in specialty, except without assimilation.

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:14 pm

I can't see how such a small group would even survive (they didn't seem to do any assimilation - just kill - and they were such a small group to begin with). It would be like Vulcan becoming a separate faction of the Federation. 

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:17 pm

Which group do you mean? Hughs tiny faction, I assume?

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:19 pm

wow guys, really? do we have to relate everything back to cannon, do we really need to just strip away ideas, because they probably would have died...... honestly all the avatars now have the same basic tree with a few mods, thats all im suggesting, because i feel it would give the borg a different feel,

its like saying that ya know, actually the borg woulda killed all the races, well they probably woulda, but that wouldnt of been fun in the show, so they adapted it a bit, cmon guys be a little more creative, its just like the dominion has a breen avatar, the breen arnt presented as a separate faction of the dominion

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:21 pm

Yup, Hughs and Lores faction as Ray mentioned. The Voyager stuff I don't care too much for. Having the Queen control everything and be some egomaniac... just isn't my feel for who the Borg were in TNG.

wow guys, really? do we have to relate everything back to cannon, do we really need to just strip away ideas, because they probably would have died...... honestly all the avatars now have the same basic tree with a few mods, thats all im suggesting, because i feel it would give the borg a different feel,

its like saying that ya know, actually the borg woulda killed all the races, well they probably woulda, but that wouldnt of been fun in the show, so they adapted it a bit, cmon guys be a little more creative, its just like the dominion has a breen avatar, the breen arnt presented as a separate faction of the dominion

The reasoning behind Breen is described in the guide

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:27 pm

Perhaps storyline wise, Hugh's group is trying to liberate others from the collective and to give individuality.  They've gained some success, and are much larger now.  This would give them a way to quickly become a large group, by "assimilating the Borg"  I definitely like the idea!

All the factions still fear them, because they're Borg, and hard liners like Nechayev and Risner would rather eliminate the threat instead of trying to have peace with them because of all the mistrust regarding the Borg in general.  The storyline could be fleshed out some, but it would bring some interesting gameplay.  I like the fact that they wouldn't have access to assimilation beams, but would have something else to compensate for it.

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:32 pm

They should still have the Holding beam, though. That's really just a combination of a combat Tractor beam and an advanced Transporter.

posted on May 9th, 2010, 9:35 pm

Yep.  They're technically not assimilating there, just boarding.

posted on May 9th, 2010, 10:18 pm

Intriguing. I quite like this idea actually. Though, I'm not sure how you'd flesh out this avatar. Those Borg only had one ship and seems a little odd to give them access to cubes, given their lack of resources compared to the collective at large.

Perhaps something along the lines of Voyagers Borg Rebellion might be a good springboard to go from. We know that potentially any Borg vessel could be affected, giving them access to the full range of ships and it could be interesting to see how "liberated" Borg might play.

Imagine the situation between two Borg players. The Collective could have the ability to randomly destroy any Rebellion ship, while the Rebels could have the equivalent ability to randomly annex a Collective vessel for the own uses. Obviously the Collective would need a further bonus though, as they wouldn't be able to regain a Rebel ship (because old Queenie is a psychotic mass murderer).

posted on May 9th, 2010, 10:19 pm

Thanks for the support guys i really do appreciate it, i like all the ideas that you have mentioned, please continue brainstorming

posted on May 9th, 2010, 10:21 pm

Perhaps something along the lines of Voyagers Borg Rebellion might be a good springboard to go from. We know that potentially any Borg vessel could be affected, giving them access to the full range of ships and it could be interesting to see how "liberated" Borg might play.

Imagine the situation between two Borg players. The Collective could have the ability to randomly destroy any Rebellion ship, while the Rebels could have the equivalent ability to randomly annex a Collective vessel for the own uses. Obviously the Collective would need a further bonus though, as they wouldn't be able to regain a Rebel ship (because old Queenie is a psychotic mass murderer).

I suggested the Borg Cooperative recently (in this thread). The Borg could regain their ships, though, by simply reassimilating them.