Negh'var Warship cannon

posted on June 3rd, 2009, 8:36 am

Hi there I'm new to the FO forums and I just want to say what a great mod you developed here
I now play FO for 2 month and I still can't stop playing, sadly my connection is to bad for online games...

Now here is the problem I found when I just looked in the odf's of the new warship cannons:

kliW_neghvarr64 has a shotdelay0 of 1 and kliW_neghvarYr64 a shotdelay0 of 4. I don't really know what that exactly means, perhaps its unimportant, but the real prob I found is in the prorper ordinance files:

kliW_neghvarYr64o got a damage of 27.827 and kliW_neghvarr64o a damage of 1!

I hope I could help you.

posted on June 3rd, 2009, 8:49 am

I have no idea what that means, but what is your point? :s

posted on June 4th, 2009, 10:29 am

Are you comparing the Negh'var's of different avatars?

posted on June 4th, 2009, 10:39 am

oh thats indeed a small bug will be fixed

posted on June 4th, 2009, 1:59 pm

I'm glad that I could help

posted on June 4th, 2009, 2:10 pm

Could the Negh'Var battleships be more powerful? They are Klingon ships for crying out loud! They need to be PH34R3|D by their enemies!

posted on June 5th, 2009, 4:05 am

i kind of agree. the klingons kind of suck...the Rom's have to must Fire power, with a deadly ship that has 207 Def, thats a little over powered i think, last night 3 players vs 1 hard rom, and the rom killed us.. and we are not that bad...

posted on June 5th, 2009, 7:32 am

Then you definitly do not want to be playing against a hard Borg AI
Also Negh'Var is in line with the other main battleships that are in the game now. And I really dont think it should be THAT much stronger than say a sovie, d'deridex or dominion V13

posted on June 5th, 2009, 7:46 am

Then you definitly do not want to be playing against a hard Borg AI
Also Negh'Var is in line with the other main battleships that are in the game now. And I really dont think it should be THAT much stronger than say a sovie, d'deridex or dominion V13

I thought that the main advantage of klingon ships offer is that they mount very very big and powerful guns for their size. Along those lines, perhaps we could have:
* the negh-var be turned into a big dreadnought with offensive stats similar to the dominion dreadnought and lower offensive/defensive stats
* the vorcha be moved up to replace the negh'var
* the Sang and the vut'pa rearranged to close the gap now in the second yard lineup

posted on June 5th, 2009, 12:56 pm

The Klingons need a super ship! The Federation has a Descent which can instantly boost its sheilds, the Romulans have a Warbird that is close to a mobile outpost if fire power. The Borg have their cubes! The Dom have their V-15 Dreadnaughts. And the Klingons have NOTHING!  We need a ship that will make the Klingons be PH34Re|) by others! If not the Negh'Var, than put in a damn good dreadnaught!

posted on June 5th, 2009, 1:13 pm

I wasn't aware the Dominion of Federation had a super ship. The Descent may have 74 defense, but with 35 offense (concentrated around torpedoes) it is far from "super"--> more like a big meatshield. The Dreadnought, as you are well aware, is only available from mixed-tech... so is also not a super ship. The Klingons are already feared by "the others": all of their ships pack a large wallop: the Negh'Var does a fine job for its role.

@Nasedo: The Tavara only gets such stats after upgrades and leveling up... hardly a good comparison.

posted on June 6th, 2009, 3:22 pm

The Descent is not a super ship. You can easily pick one off with B'rel or K'Vort class ships because it's main armament is torpedoes. Remember that while 2 Quantum torpedoe's burst firing tends to mess up a captial ship most of those miss against destroyers.

True it can soak up firepower by a large amount and even allow a fleet to do so but there are plenty of ways to disable its engines (breaking it off from the federation fleet or forcing them to stand still), disable its shields or weapon systems. Finally its so slow that anything that cloaks or moves with a reasonable speed can out flank it or escape from it.

The Descent is a lovely ship but it is by no means a super ship, just hard to kill if used correctly.