Warp Nacells

posted on July 23rd, 2004, 3:09 pm

Why does that major powers have those big bulky warp nacells while other ships usally have none or it is intergraded into the ship.


Isn't a warp nacell an easy target?

posted on July 23rd, 2004, 3:13 pm

be cuss thats haw jeen rodinbary made the ferst ship like that. so thay all have to look like it so thay will be easy to tell thay are a fetreashon ship. just like all kingons have some thing incomin thare culer and sapes in thare desine.

posted on July 23rd, 2004, 3:17 pm

hm, that's a good question
as far as i know it's because warp nacells have some radiation and therefore they are usually built "outside" the ship to avoid radiation within the sections where people usually work and live.

those fractions (for example the ferengi ) who don't use external warp nacells are either immune to the radiation or just risk the health of their crew to save money

posted on July 23rd, 2004, 3:24 pm

i stoped tring to figer out st after enterprise came out. if you do triy to you will eand up in a sicehospital riting on the walls. and drooling.

posted on July 23rd, 2004, 4:42 pm

Enterprise has that effect.

posted on July 23rd, 2004, 5:35 pm

enterprise is lethal

[KL0K]

posted on July 23rd, 2004, 11:58 pm

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i stoped tring to figer out st after enterprise came out. if you do triy to you will eand up in a sicehospital riting on the walls. and drooling.

like capt. benjamin sisqo in DS9 ... talkin to prophets... writin his own life.... yea.. sure

i think optec is right about that... and i think that the later ships got a better protection against the radiation, so that they dont need to build them outside... as for romulans, they dont even use warpnacelles... they got their quantumsingularity... i think the ferengi usin the same... cause its kinda same ship-design i mean.. look at the warbird and the marauder...

posted on July 24th, 2004, 2:11 am

Lets kill everyone who is in Enterprise and remake the show to where we are back in the 24th century and it has picard flying around with the E-E.

Yes radiation would be bad so Optecs reply makes sense, another reason DS9 don't make sense.

posted on July 26th, 2004, 10:47 am

WHAT ABOUT THE DEFIANT DAMNIT.. Obviously there is no significant danger, its merely design.. gene roddenberry WANTED all fed ships to have necells sticking out ><.
Anywho, Warbirds still have warp drive.. a warp core generates energy, quantum sigularity can still produce enough energy for it..

Enterprise IS killing others.. remember the episode when they were all stuck in the warp necells? *forgets why, but yeah, obviously not too much radiation..

posted on July 26th, 2004, 12:26 pm

Remember that Episode? Sure I do.

But:

The warp drive was shutdown and they were hiding from some kind of ion storm.
The maintenance tunnel within the nacelles was the only place on the ship that was protected well enough against the radiation from the storm.

While they were "hiding", several intruders came onto the ship and tried to reactivate the warp drive. It was made clear that, if they had succeeded, all the people withing the nacelles would have died.

So that episode is no argument. And yes, in the 60s there were several ideas of spaceship design (e.g. those of Eugen Sänger) that included propulsion system in nacelles to protect the crew from radiation. That idea led to the ship design in TOS.

Now, if ships from TNG and so on do not follow the idea, then it's the developer's fault. Maybe they have an explanation for it, but from an objective point of view it seems simply wrong.

Explanation for alien vessels could be: Different method to generate subspace fields (warp fields).

Explanation for defiant could be: Improved radiation shielding, just as the shuttles seem to have (nacelles much closer to crew).

Noone knows for sure...

posted on July 26th, 2004, 12:57 pm

but remiber the defint was slow what was it like warp 8 was its max. and the romulans and kingons both keep thare worp eangens wwhay from the mane body of the ship.

posted on July 29th, 2004, 10:33 pm

I see changeling, i havent watched that episode in a long time
Perhaps it's antimatter radiation, in which case it wouldnt be a threat to the romulans because they use artificial singularities. Blah. As we said in chat, we cant make sure because we dont know all the facts ><

posted on July 29th, 2004, 10:35 pm

although antimatter doesnt flow through the necells, plasma does DAMN YOU STAR TREK, WHY CANT YOU EXPLAIN EVERYTHING!

posted on July 31st, 2004, 9:42 pm

The radiation idea about nacelles is total bull. Radiation only dissipates by ionising matter. No matter in vacuum, so radiation continues forever, essentially.

posted on July 31st, 2004, 10:53 pm

@volume why cant i explain everything? because i am not gene rodddenberry