Star Trek Trivia!

posted on December 13th, 2005, 8:04 am

In what series? all of them? The excelsior is old though why would they need it in tng when they have galaxies lurking about?

posted on December 13th, 2005, 8:36 am

excellsiors appear in TNG and DS9 frequently way too frequently

im not sure if there was ever one in voyager maybe in the temporal episode where janeway goes back in time but i doubt it

posted on December 13th, 2005, 8:59 am

I don't remember them in DS9 Perhaps it's because I didn't really care for what was outside the station when watching, Didn't pay attention to it unless it was really a key point in the story I remember someone on the enterprise-D gets transferred over to an Excelsior class commanded by an Admiral, one thing I didn't understand is if she was an Admiral, why would you want an old ship like that? I'd get the new one, fastest, strongest, ect ect

posted on December 13th, 2005, 10:50 am

when i said that 4 nebs could take on an ISD, i figured that everyone would assume that they would have a full screen of fighters. without fighters they would be slag. that was a major part of my last post. now as for the "this is startrek trivia". you'd think so, but i guess we have to many SW fans here.

as for why you'd need excellsiors in TGN or ds9. just because a ship is older doesn't mean it should be scrap when newer models comeout, if a ship can still hold it's own, why stop using em just because newer or bigger ships are used as well, i mean that's just wasteful. IMHO

and about that admiral, maybe that ship has some kind of sentimental value to her? that would be my guess.

posted on December 13th, 2005, 10:50 am

because the show was low on cash

but also they were proven vessels

posted on December 15th, 2005, 6:58 am

just because a ship is older doesn't mean it should be scrap when newer models comeout, if a ship can still hold it's own, why stop using em just because newer or bigger ships are used as well, i mean that's just wasteful. IMHO

that is a terrific point. unfortunately military logic doesn't always fare well on the big screen, newer ships mean you can have longer names for their technology, and more flashing lights

posted on December 15th, 2005, 10:46 am

well, i'm a big fan of military tactics myself. but i can see your point nontheless.

[Rhaz]

posted on December 15th, 2005, 10:29 pm

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In DS9 the most common federation ship class was Excelsior.

The Excelsior started life off as a Battlecruiser, in the age of the refitted constitution.
(Enterprise-B)

Around the TNG Era they took the role of Heavy Cruiser (Being suceeded in dangerous jobs by Nebulas and Galaxies).

In the DS9 era they were the most common ship.
There were TONS of them in the final battle, the battle for Chun'toka (Sp)
Retaking of DS9 and alot of other skirmishes (Lakota).

The Excelsior in the DS9 era was a medium cruiser and general purpose line ship (They made up the meat of the federation fleet) and they could carry 500 personel (Good for troop landings, supplies ect) and were used in all manner of warfare.

I would doubt they are obosolete now as the class was very easy to refit, I believe it more likely that they were simply relegated to core federation systems or as part of larger task forces in specialized roles like communications ship or dedicated to a starbase in case of an emergency. They will soon be replaced by Nebulas, Akiras and more combat worthy classes if the need arises, but until then they are the meat of the federation armada.

ALTHOUGH

Can someone explain why we see so few ambassadors? But so many Excelsiors?
I mean the ambassadors are better, and sure they were few...but wouldn't a few have survived to be in major battles?

posted on December 15th, 2005, 11:09 pm

yeah but wasnt the ambassador ship line pretty low compared because of the extra cost and the size compared to the excellsior

plus as you said the excellsior was really easy to refit **** some where used as fighter carriers

posted on December 15th, 2005, 11:12 pm

If tou recall the excelsior was built to test transwarp .It was ahead of its time because then structure had to withstand transwarp focres but also because they used a lot of reverse enginering in it. it is the most eisily refited ship in the fleet.

posted on December 15th, 2005, 11:14 pm

yeah that is true too bad it failed but ur right ahead of its time just like many other ships

posted on December 15th, 2005, 11:34 pm

i think im gonna save that and use it against you one day

posted on December 16th, 2005, 1:10 am

wait, wait wait...Star Trek, low on cash?! My left boot...I'd be surprised if Gene didn't have more money than Gates for a good part of his life

posted on December 16th, 2005, 7:37 am

i don't know if i'd go that far, but he must have been loaded.

posted on December 16th, 2005, 8:10 pm

The girls he mustve got