Star Trek Legacy
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posted on December 17th, 2006, 10:19 am
Last edited by cbosdell on December 17th, 2006, 10:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
The game grows on you over time i'd say. It is extremly moddable and with some of the mods done/in development it becomes more playable. To me at this point the biggest annoyance is the lack of customizing enemy ships in skirmish. I have no idea how this was overlooked.
There is an app now to remap the keys for legacy but i've played 3 missions (had to do #2 about 5 times) so i've grown too used to the default f, w, s, a, d, space bar, left mouse, right mouse, shift + t, r to benifit from changing it until someone figures out how to assign keys to the transport, hail, tractor, target weapons, target engines, target hull, etc buttons.
although to be fair the game is NOT the game that was promised or the game I was expecting. I expected something like Starfleet Command meets Armada 2 with seperate campaigns for all 3 eras instead of some weirdly connected one we got. I also expected a workable fully enjoyable game out of the box.
There is an app now to remap the keys for legacy but i've played 3 missions (had to do #2 about 5 times) so i've grown too used to the default f, w, s, a, d, space bar, left mouse, right mouse, shift + t, r to benifit from changing it until someone figures out how to assign keys to the transport, hail, tractor, target weapons, target engines, target hull, etc buttons.
although to be fair the game is NOT the game that was promised or the game I was expecting. I expected something like Starfleet Command meets Armada 2 with seperate campaigns for all 3 eras instead of some weirdly connected one we got. I also expected a workable fully enjoyable game out of the box.

posted on December 17th, 2006, 1:20 pm
i say, give the rights back to activision, let them upgrade their 3 engines for armada2, bridge commander and elite force and mix the into one big game, to make use of exsisting material, and give the fans what they want. (it should be too dificult), scew making it for a console, we want a bloody computer game!
This new game would satisfie everyone.
You can command your ship from the bridge, (bc) the walk down to the transporter room and go on a away mission(ef) then controle massive fleets is massive battles (a2).
I mean come on! thats what we all want.
O and a Decent bloody story line is a necessity! i repeat again.. a NECESSITY!
if they dont do it then, the modding comunity will rip these games apart to get it and screw the legality, they have had their change and are running out of time, get people that actulaly give a damn about scifi to create the game, not just retards that have £ signs in their eyes!
(sorry my mistake $)
This new game would satisfie everyone.
You can command your ship from the bridge, (bc) the walk down to the transporter room and go on a away mission(ef) then controle massive fleets is massive battles (a2).
I mean come on! thats what we all want.
O and a Decent bloody story line is a necessity! i repeat again.. a NECESSITY!
if they dont do it then, the modding comunity will rip these games apart to get it and screw the legality, they have had their change and are running out of time, get people that actulaly give a damn about scifi to create the game, not just retards that have £ signs in their eyes!
(sorry my mistake $)
posted on December 19th, 2006, 1:05 am
There are no official mod tools
yeah sure u can edit ODF's with Word and notepad ect
but the simple fact of the matter is the game is a piece of **** beta that was released
what makes it worse is now the guys at bethesda are locking all the negative threads over on the official forums as they dont want people to see all the problems with the game
talk about a cover up
yeah sure u can edit ODF's with Word and notepad ect
but the simple fact of the matter is the game is a piece of **** beta that was released
what makes it worse is now the guys at bethesda are locking all the negative threads over on the official forums as they dont want people to see all the problems with the game
talk about a cover up
posted on December 20th, 2006, 10:17 pm
Last edited by ewm90 on December 20th, 2006, 10:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
People are smart thay see whats hapining. The best I can reminind is make a post on the complant saying I am complaning to parimont becuss I dont feel my conserns are being respected thare!.
And send a e-mail to parimont. Thants what I am going to do.
Heres my new tread I dont think it will be up long feel free to ad to it.
http://startrek.bethsoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5454
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my mseage to http://www.cbs.com/sales/cbs/contact/ <- the owner of Star Trek
I feel that my conserns about the new star trek game I got from not working where ingnored and when I complaned my post in the complant thread was deleated.
I just make a new thread on thare forum and it was locked be for I could evin fix my spelling mistakes.
Evry compalnt thead I have seen on thare froum is locked or is deleated.
http://startrek.bethsoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5454
I feel allmost insolted by the haribal whay bethsoft is hadaling the bad game by macdoc.
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A nuther intresting post:
http://startrek.bethsoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5455
Ive noticed people having the prob ive had with the forum. If you need to file a complaint with bethesda like i have done heres the info for you. Dont listen to those who tell you u cant get through and your wasting your time. Ive gotten through very easily and talked with numerous people. Id like to say what i mean but youll have to pm me if ya want to know what i mean. I hope this gets to the people who i see asking about this.
http://www.bethsoft.com/contact.html
bethesda direct (301) 926-8300
tech support 410-568-3685
You can also file a complain via snail mail as well you can do that to. If you do snail mail make sure u print out copy anything u need to attach with it.
ethesda Softworks LLC
a ZeniMax Media company
1370 Piccard Drive, Suite 120
Rockville, MD 20850
And send a e-mail to parimont. Thants what I am going to do.
Heres my new tread I dont think it will be up long feel free to ad to it.
http://startrek.bethsoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5454
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my mseage to http://www.cbs.com/sales/cbs/contact/ <- the owner of Star Trek
I feel that my conserns about the new star trek game I got from not working where ingnored and when I complaned my post in the complant thread was deleated.
I just make a new thread on thare forum and it was locked be for I could evin fix my spelling mistakes.
Evry compalnt thead I have seen on thare froum is locked or is deleated.
http://startrek.bethsoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5454
I feel allmost insolted by the haribal whay bethsoft is hadaling the bad game by macdoc.
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A nuther intresting post:
http://startrek.bethsoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5455
Ive noticed people having the prob ive had with the forum. If you need to file a complaint with bethesda like i have done heres the info for you. Dont listen to those who tell you u cant get through and your wasting your time. Ive gotten through very easily and talked with numerous people. Id like to say what i mean but youll have to pm me if ya want to know what i mean. I hope this gets to the people who i see asking about this.
http://www.bethsoft.com/contact.html
bethesda direct (301) 926-8300
tech support 410-568-3685
You can also file a complain via snail mail as well you can do that to. If you do snail mail make sure u print out copy anything u need to attach with it.
ethesda Softworks LLC
a ZeniMax Media company
1370 Piccard Drive, Suite 120
Rockville, MD 20850
posted on December 20th, 2006, 11:48 pm
Last edited by hargrave on December 20th, 2006, 11:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Hi all im the op of the contact bethesda post on the legacy forums. I can talk a little more freely here. The mods on there just insane idiots. Im waiting till tomorrow to see if they act on my complaint i filed it will be 3 days. I have a very revealing list of pms from a nutso mod lol. Even the guy on the bethesda tech support said he had to read it twice to make sure it said what it did and thats just the one pm theres others. My lawyer said not much he can do but he agrees its the most unproffesional thing hes ever seen in his life. I was hoping for a free copy of oblivion or soemthing lol but oh well. I can say this much aparantly the mods arent payed from what i understand. Could explain there arrogance and god complexes on there. All i have to say is stay tuned...
My op for those who need it
http://startrek.bethsoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5455
My op for those who need it
http://startrek.bethsoft.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5455
posted on December 21st, 2006, 4:33 pm
Last edited by Anonymous on December 21st, 2006, 5:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Just played Legacy. It sucked. Bad. I think I'm going to play a DECENT game like, say, Shattered Universe...
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Wow, those mods are bad. Looks like they're too busy coering their own ***** to bother with being nice...
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Wow, those mods are bad. Looks like they're too busy coering their own ***** to bother with being nice...
posted on December 21st, 2006, 10:29 pm
It's definitely grown on me. I was a bit displeased at first. Once I got over it not being exactly what I envisioned, I've started to enjoy it.
Just hoping some of the modders can fix and possibly re-implement all the shiat they cut from the game.
Just hoping some of the modders can fix and possibly re-implement all the shiat they cut from the game.
posted on December 22nd, 2006, 2:29 am
Sort of like Armada 2, maybe? Possibly? Hopefully?
It let everyone down, too, except people's expectations were lower.
It let everyone down, too, except people's expectations were lower.
posted on December 22nd, 2006, 12:10 pm
I'm going to wait for other patches and a real mod. Now most modders playing around whats possible. And HEY! they got 8 players from 4 for mp, added other things...I'm optmistic. They game has a huge potential. I think whats possible with Armada 2 it's also for Legacy because it's an upgraded A2 engine.
posted on December 22nd, 2006, 3:18 pm
Well first of all i dont think its a good idea to compare Armada2 and Legacy cos A2 is an RTS and Legacy is some sort of action game or simulator.
I've played legacy, completed its campaign and i have to say that game suxx a lot... It has got terrible controls, many annoying bugs and a bit weird campaign... For an example in campaign ships got unreal stats, different from what they have in skirmish mode... Like in the campaign a big borg cube got pretty hard work taking off your sovereigns shields, whats an insane thing imo, but in skirmish the same cube kills you in moments...
Ohh yeah and it has got a very very very dumb and incapable AI, there is no guard mode, nor any decent order except warp there and attack that... Not even a follow me oh for f*cks sake...
The interface is pretty much bugged too, etc.
Dont waste your money for this crap...
If you arent afraid of missing a real story/campaign and missing the ability to move your ship vertically (whats actually pretty much limited in Legacy too), then go and play Starfleet Command 3: Generations at War MOD, it has got ways better battles and ship controls...
I've played legacy, completed its campaign and i have to say that game suxx a lot... It has got terrible controls, many annoying bugs and a bit weird campaign... For an example in campaign ships got unreal stats, different from what they have in skirmish mode... Like in the campaign a big borg cube got pretty hard work taking off your sovereigns shields, whats an insane thing imo, but in skirmish the same cube kills you in moments...
Ohh yeah and it has got a very very very dumb and incapable AI, there is no guard mode, nor any decent order except warp there and attack that... Not even a follow me oh for f*cks sake...
The interface is pretty much bugged too, etc.
Dont waste your money for this crap...
If you arent afraid of missing a real story/campaign and missing the ability to move your ship vertically (whats actually pretty much limited in Legacy too), then go and play Starfleet Command 3: Generations at War MOD, it has got ways better battles and ship controls...
posted on December 23rd, 2006, 12:43 pm
i'v just played legacy got past the enter eara..
mg: its terrible... it really is... try it out for your self.. it really is terrible, my mouse stops working so i'v had to plug a game pad in just to press the ok button so that i can continue playing... no tacticks can't do more then 1 thing at once.
eg.. fire phasers and torps (can't to it)
turn and fire (can't do it)
change speed and turn(no u guessed it can't do it!!!!)
not storyline...
i had to mod it stright away just to get it slightly playable.. WTF! n now there is absoultly no support from bethesda... we need major patches and fast! if they are going to save anything of their reputation and this game..
What a joke! feels like a very early alpha release.. i mean very early! :cry:
Bloody rubbish.. so people dnt wast ur money on it.. do as suggests in this thread some posts back...

eg.. fire phasers and torps (can't to it)
turn and fire (can't do it)
change speed and turn(no u guessed it can't do it!!!!)
not storyline...
i had to mod it stright away just to get it slightly playable.. WTF! n now there is absoultly no support from bethesda... we need major patches and fast! if they are going to save anything of their reputation and this game..
What a joke! feels like a very early alpha release.. i mean very early! :cry:
Bloody rubbish.. so people dnt wast ur money on it.. do as suggests in this thread some posts back...
posted on December 24th, 2006, 7:17 pm
what did i tell you
posted on December 25th, 2006, 1:33 pm
Last edited by ColdDarkParanoia on December 25th, 2006, 1:35 pm, edited 1 time in total.
what did i tell you
im ok man, i took your advise

even the modding is looking worrying atm,
check this out on legacy files
http://forums.filefront.com/showthread.php...threadid=294203
dautfull much can be modded...
posted on December 26th, 2006, 5:13 pm
Nope. Read again. I guess they found a way.
posted on December 27th, 2006, 12:28 pm
Last edited by Fullphaser on December 27th, 2006, 12:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
After reading the forums I would be firing some mods. That is by far the worst example of BBS management I have seen in years. First off the customer who complains is the one who you go and kiss their ***. You do not tell them to stop posting flame bait, wait and then proceed to lock the thread. Just from looking through I guess 10 or so threads I was astounded by the absolute uselessness of the BBS administration on what is supposed to be "lol" a top of the line product. The fact is when your moderators are acting in such a manor it looks really bad to those buying the game. Also when people have a 14 page thread and all the mods seem to notice is flaming towards them they might want to catch the drift and re think they way that they administer the forums.
From having read the complaints there is now no way I am going to get the game, many a star trek gamer can tell you we don't like console games, and if port us a piece of **** we will respond by giving it back to you. Also what the hell were they thinking using the BS armada II engine, beyond what Optic and Doca and all the folks here at fleetops have done, I have heard nothing but complaints about the massive and gaping flaws in the engine, and they want to port it to a completely different play style? Why, when SFC: all of them are using the engine they should be looking at, and I do mean it is the same play style except you know apparently stable.
Whoever the dev company was should have a.) started a new engine from scratch, or b.) use an existing and proven engine that was in the correct field and not try to port an RTS engine. I mean Star Fleet Command Volumes 1 through 3 are sitting right there with a successful engine in the filed of gameplay they are looking, except unlike legacy the developers of Starfleet Command actually knew what the hell they were doing (- the sometimes random explosion of capital ships
). So Legacy will not be getting bought by me. The first thing they need to learn is we don't want a console game, because most Star Trek gamers don't want Star Trek on a console. Why? because unlike blow em up fest they call star wars, Star Trek is all about the micromanagement.
From having read the complaints there is now no way I am going to get the game, many a star trek gamer can tell you we don't like console games, and if port us a piece of **** we will respond by giving it back to you. Also what the hell were they thinking using the BS armada II engine, beyond what Optic and Doca and all the folks here at fleetops have done, I have heard nothing but complaints about the massive and gaping flaws in the engine, and they want to port it to a completely different play style? Why, when SFC: all of them are using the engine they should be looking at, and I do mean it is the same play style except you know apparently stable.
Whoever the dev company was should have a.) started a new engine from scratch, or b.) use an existing and proven engine that was in the correct field and not try to port an RTS engine. I mean Star Fleet Command Volumes 1 through 3 are sitting right there with a successful engine in the filed of gameplay they are looking, except unlike legacy the developers of Starfleet Command actually knew what the hell they were doing (- the sometimes random explosion of capital ships

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