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Abrams & Orci: Star Trek Sequel To Be Modern-day Allegory September 15, 2009
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Abrams, Orci/Kurtzman, Star Trek sequel (2011) , trackback
We have another update on the Star Trek sequel, this time JJ Abrams and Bob Orci talk about how they are looking to the roots of Star Trek and how it has been a way to tell modern-day allegories, possibly dealing with war and torture. Latest details come from a new LA Times, interview, excerpts below.
Abrams and Orci, looking for an allegory
Star Trek on TV and in the feature films has famously dealt with issues of the day. And apparently Bob Orci and JJ Abrams are looking to bring some of that allegorical element to the next Trek. Firstly JJ told the LA Times:
"The ambition for a sequel to ‘Star Trek’ is to make a movie that’s worthy of the audience and not just another movie, you know, just a second movie that feels tacked on. The first movie was so concerned with just setting up the characters — their meeting each and galvanizing that family — that in many ways a sequel will have a very different mission. it needs to do what [the late 'Trek' creator Gene] Roddenberry did so well, which is allegory. It needs to tell a story that has connection to what is familiar and what is relevant. It also needs to tell it in a spectacular way that hides the machinery and in a primarily entertaining and hopefully moving story. There needs to be relevance, yes, and that doesn’t mean it should be pretentious. If there are simple truths — truths connected to what we live — that elevates any story — that’s true with any story."
And Bob Orci added:
We’ve literally had two meetings now. We haven’t decided anything but we’re starting to circle around some ideas. We got a lot of fan response from the first one and a considerable amount of critical response and one of the things we heard was, ‘Make sure the next one deals with modern-day issues.’ We’re trying to keep it as up-to-date and as reflective of what’s going on today as possible. So that’s one thing, to make it reflect the things that we are all dealing with today.
So what modern day issues? Is War and Torture in our Trek future?, Here is another excerpt:
I asked Orci somewhat flippantly if that meant we might see Starfleet grappling with the ethics of torture or dealing with a rising terrorist threat or perhaps a painful, politicized war with the Klingons.
"Well yeah, those are the kind of issues we’re talking about. Wow, you’re good! But seriously that’s the way we’re thinking, that’s an approach. So if you have any ideas … "
More at LA Times
Star Trek and Allegories
There are many examples of Star Trek dealing with issues of the day, some of which even evolved over time, like how the Klingons were always the stand-in for the Soviet Union during the cold-war in the 60s on Star Trek: The Original Series [see clip below] and then detente of the late 80s and 90s in The Next Generation and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
Abrams & Orci: Star Trek Sequel To Be Modern-day Allegory | TrekMovie.com
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Leonard Nimoy Does Not Expect To Be In Star Trek Sequel September 20, 2009
by TrekMovie.com Staff , Filed under: Fringe, Star Trek (2009 film), Star Trek sequel (2011) , trackback
In a new radio interview with NPR, the original Mr. Spock, Leonard Nimoy, says that he feels that he done the job he was required to do for this year’s Star Trek movie, and he doesn’t expect to return for the sequel. We have the full audio and text excerpts from that interview below, plus a recent comment from Damon Lindelof, who is working of the story for the Star Trek sequel with Bob and Alex.
Nimoy: no need for me in Trek –
The inclusion of Leonard Nimoy’s Spock in this year’s Star Trek was a clever way to tie the ‘prime timeline’ of Star Trek history to the new ‘JJ-verse’, but the actor was also an excellent endorser of the new team and film. However, Nimoy seems to now feel that his work is done for the new era of Trek, telling NPR:
I know why they wanted me in this last film, which was to create a bridge between the original cast and the new, but that’s been done. So I would suspect that there’s no need for my presence again.
Nimoy says that he would read a Trek script if they sent him one, but he doesn’t expect it. Although he will not say that he is finished with Trek, Nimoy has handed the baton to the new Spock Zachary Quinto, noting:
I’m proud of what he did in the film. I think it’s very good work. I think the character is in very good hands
Although he seems to be re-retiring from Star Trek, the actor is still popping out of retirement for JJ Abrams and his FOX show Fringe. He talks about that and his latest photography projects in the full audio interview below. (via NPR) .
Leonard Nimoy Does Not Expect To Be In Star Trek Sequel | TrekMovie.com
[/align]Abrams & Orci: Star Trek Sequel To Be Modern-day Allegory September 15, 2009
by Anthony Pascale , Filed under: Abrams, Orci/Kurtzman, Star Trek sequel (2011) , trackback
We have another update on the Star Trek sequel, this time JJ Abrams and Bob Orci talk about how they are looking to the roots of Star Trek and how it has been a way to tell modern-day allegories, possibly dealing with war and torture. Latest details come from a new LA Times, interview, excerpts below.
Abrams and Orci, looking for an allegory
Star Trek on TV and in the feature films has famously dealt with issues of the day. And apparently Bob Orci and JJ Abrams are looking to bring some of that allegorical element to the next Trek. Firstly JJ told the LA Times:
"The ambition for a sequel to ‘Star Trek’ is to make a movie that’s worthy of the audience and not just another movie, you know, just a second movie that feels tacked on. The first movie was so concerned with just setting up the characters — their meeting each and galvanizing that family — that in many ways a sequel will have a very different mission. it needs to do what [the late 'Trek' creator Gene] Roddenberry did so well, which is allegory. It needs to tell a story that has connection to what is familiar and what is relevant. It also needs to tell it in a spectacular way that hides the machinery and in a primarily entertaining and hopefully moving story. There needs to be relevance, yes, and that doesn’t mean it should be pretentious. If there are simple truths — truths connected to what we live — that elevates any story — that’s true with any story."
And Bob Orci added:
We’ve literally had two meetings now. We haven’t decided anything but we’re starting to circle around some ideas. We got a lot of fan response from the first one and a considerable amount of critical response and one of the things we heard was, ‘Make sure the next one deals with modern-day issues.’ We’re trying to keep it as up-to-date and as reflective of what’s going on today as possible. So that’s one thing, to make it reflect the things that we are all dealing with today.
So what modern day issues? Is War and Torture in our Trek future?, Here is another excerpt:
I asked Orci somewhat flippantly if that meant we might see Starfleet grappling with the ethics of torture or dealing with a rising terrorist threat or perhaps a painful, politicized war with the Klingons.
"Well yeah, those are the kind of issues we’re talking about. Wow, you’re good! But seriously that’s the way we’re thinking, that’s an approach. So if you have any ideas … "
More at LA Times
Star Trek and Allegories
There are many examples of Star Trek dealing with issues of the day, some of which even evolved over time, like how the Klingons were always the stand-in for the Soviet Union during the cold-war in the 60s on Star Trek: The Original Series [see clip below] and then detente of the late 80s and 90s in The Next Generation and Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country.
Abrams & Orci: Star Trek Sequel To Be Modern-day Allegory | TrekMovie.com
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[/align]Leonard Nimoy Does Not Expect To Be In Star Trek Sequel September 20, 2009
by TrekMovie.com Staff , Filed under: Fringe, Star Trek (2009 film), Star Trek sequel (2011) , trackback
In a new radio interview with NPR, the original Mr. Spock, Leonard Nimoy, says that he feels that he done the job he was required to do for this year’s Star Trek movie, and he doesn’t expect to return for the sequel. We have the full audio and text excerpts from that interview below, plus a recent comment from Damon Lindelof, who is working of the story for the Star Trek sequel with Bob and Alex.
Nimoy: no need for me in Trek –
The inclusion of Leonard Nimoy’s Spock in this year’s Star Trek was a clever way to tie the ‘prime timeline’ of Star Trek history to the new ‘JJ-verse’, but the actor was also an excellent endorser of the new team and film. However, Nimoy seems to now feel that his work is done for the new era of Trek, telling NPR:
I know why they wanted me in this last film, which was to create a bridge between the original cast and the new, but that’s been done. So I would suspect that there’s no need for my presence again.
Nimoy says that he would read a Trek script if they sent him one, but he doesn’t expect it. Although he will not say that he is finished with Trek, Nimoy has handed the baton to the new Spock Zachary Quinto, noting:
I’m proud of what he did in the film. I think it’s very good work. I think the character is in very good hands
Although he seems to be re-retiring from Star Trek, the actor is still popping out of retirement for JJ Abrams and his FOX show Fringe. He talks about that and his latest photography projects in the full audio interview below. (via NPR) .
Leonard Nimoy Does Not Expect To Be In Star Trek Sequel | TrekMovie.com
posted on September 23rd, 2009, 9:02 pm
Good find mate 
posted on October 18th, 2009, 12:21 pm
Indeed a good find. I hope though, that they avoid time travel with this sequel. We need to get back to the roots of Star Trek. Have the Enterprise (and maybe a few other ships) take on some Klingon 'Warbirds' or something.
To be fair, the Klingon Empire has been the main 'bad guy' throughout most of the TMP era. We need to have them back in there. New timeline could mean a whole different set of circumstances for them. We could even have the Dominion War all over again, just with the Klingon's instead of the Dominion.
To be fair, the Klingon Empire has been the main 'bad guy' throughout most of the TMP era. We need to have them back in there. New timeline could mean a whole different set of circumstances for them. We could even have the Dominion War all over again, just with the Klingon's instead of the Dominion.
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