NX Registry System
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posted on June 27th, 2010, 4:16 pm
I'd agree with that analysis of the 5-digit.
Think back to the TNG episode where the Tachyon Detection Grid came from. Starfleet was 'stretched very thin in this sector'...so Picard just had to make due with 20 ships to make the grid.
That makes me think that starfleet was always meant to be huge, but the analysis of Wolf 359 was the error, acting like the losses at that battle crippled starfleet, rather than just terrifying it, and hurting morale, while making them juggle some ships to cover the holes.
Think back to the TNG episode where the Tachyon Detection Grid came from. Starfleet was 'stretched very thin in this sector'...so Picard just had to make due with 20 ships to make the grid.
That makes me think that starfleet was always meant to be huge, but the analysis of Wolf 359 was the error, acting like the losses at that battle crippled starfleet, rather than just terrifying it, and hurting morale, while making them juggle some ships to cover the holes.
posted on June 27th, 2010, 4:30 pm
The Wolf 359 idea of Starfleet not being large is countered by DS9 having single fleets over twice the size and repeatingly greater losses with little to no effect on ship numbers (despite the crippled shipyards). They never had a noticable shortage of ships, just crew.
Wolf 359 was more likely the loss of life than crippling of the fleet. 11,000 isn't a small number, especially for an empire that is concerned about all individual's equally.
Wolf 359 was more likely the loss of life than crippling of the fleet. 11,000 isn't a small number, especially for an empire that is concerned about all individual's equally.
posted on June 27th, 2010, 4:43 pm
Starfleet has always been stretched thin due to the amount of space they have to patrol, not so much the number of ships they have.
Earth seems to always be lightly defended because it is so far away from any of the borders or known trouble areas. My guess with Wolf 359 is that Starfleet scrambled all of their ships in the area (mostly older ships) because their more advanced ships were out patrolling the borders.
Earth seems to always be lightly defended because it is so far away from any of the borders or known trouble areas. My guess with Wolf 359 is that Starfleet scrambled all of their ships in the area (mostly older ships) because their more advanced ships were out patrolling the borders.
posted on June 27th, 2010, 5:39 pm
Wasn't it mentioned that Starfleet would be up to Pre-Wolf 359 State in just a year?
The Problem was, that ONE SINGLE BORG SHIP destroyed 40 Starfleet Ships that were hastly assembled of anything that was available in time... that was more the shock that a single ship can do this without being scratched even a tiny bit...
The Problem was, that ONE SINGLE BORG SHIP destroyed 40 Starfleet Ships that were hastly assembled of anything that was available in time... that was more the shock that a single ship can do this without being scratched even a tiny bit...
posted on June 27th, 2010, 6:02 pm
Well, going by what we see in the canon, the easiest assumption is that the numerals are simply like a serial number, rising higher for each ship produced. Which is why the Earth starfleet used one and two digit numbers, and the later federation fleet by the time of kirk was using four digit numbers, with more planets producing more ships, and finally, by the time of voyager/ds9, had risen into the five digit range with even some larger runabouts getting their own hull registry numbers.
The reason ships of the same class tend to have similar numbers is that they are usually built around the same time (with the exception of ships like the Excelsior class which seemed to have been built for well over a century) or in sequence from the same ship yards. The NCC or NX prefix (or any other possible letter settings) would seem to be some kind of designator of the ship's duty status. With an NX vessel being some kind of prototype or experimental, and may (as in the case of the big X herself) be later changed to an NCC if it's refit from a prototype to a standard duty configuration.
as an example of the letter prefixes though, the US Airforce uses Y as a prefix on prototype aircraft of production vehicles. There can be anywhere from two to a dozen examples of a Y-type aircraft built. (YB-17, YF-22) and if one of these Y type aircraft is later reconfigured into a production specification, they will drop the Y and add the appropriate letter suffix, such as how the run of YB-17 bombers became rechristened B-17a (any X prefix aircraft like the XB-17 or Xf-23 are either privately built aircraft in competition for production, or are strictly experimental air craft like the X craft experimentals used jointly with NASA)
The reason ships of the same class tend to have similar numbers is that they are usually built around the same time (with the exception of ships like the Excelsior class which seemed to have been built for well over a century) or in sequence from the same ship yards. The NCC or NX prefix (or any other possible letter settings) would seem to be some kind of designator of the ship's duty status. With an NX vessel being some kind of prototype or experimental, and may (as in the case of the big X herself) be later changed to an NCC if it's refit from a prototype to a standard duty configuration.
as an example of the letter prefixes though, the US Airforce uses Y as a prefix on prototype aircraft of production vehicles. There can be anywhere from two to a dozen examples of a Y-type aircraft built. (YB-17, YF-22) and if one of these Y type aircraft is later reconfigured into a production specification, they will drop the Y and add the appropriate letter suffix, such as how the run of YB-17 bombers became rechristened B-17a (any X prefix aircraft like the XB-17 or Xf-23 are either privately built aircraft in competition for production, or are strictly experimental air craft like the X craft experimentals used jointly with NASA)
posted on June 27th, 2010, 6:03 pm
I agree with a previous poster about the 'NX = Experimental' and 'NCC = Commissioned' and you should stick with that onwards of TOS era ships. However ENT era seems to apply differently and since you're doing that era specifically you should put the NX prefix infront of everything. After all, you can't really justify it at any other point later on, with the exception of hero ships or special ships, so you may as well enjoy it in mass in that era. At least, that makes since to me and is what I'd do.
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-Grey
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-Grey
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