Who's Smarter The Cavemen Or Us!
posted on December 10th, 2005, 5:32 pm
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this guy just loves being wrong doesn't he? dinosaurs aren't in a league of their own. they're large, they're slow, they're not agile compared to humans. tigers can swing their mighty paws, and knock your head cleanly off your neck. they are more agile, they are more cunning. yet we invented weaponry that defeated them, and eventually led to human supremacy. the same thing would happen with dinosaurs. end of story.
You believe in human intellect so much, yet believe nothing that any of those so called top scientists say
. These "top scientists" are able to determine things like how something moved & how fast they were by the structure of its skeleton. in other words they can tell that dinosaurs like the Raptors, were a lot faster than humans & incredably agile. remember agility is NOT just about being able to do backflips, more accurate measurements of agility come from measuring how far & high you can jump or how far down you can fall without injury etc, etc...and besides when you are as big as a T-Rex you really dont need agility, seeing as how at full stride (something in the region of 25-30mph on uneven ground) you'll probably take whatever you run into with you.
@eufnoc, you forget that dinosaurs weren't running around at the time
so who knows how things would have turned out.@Baron, yep
(the 3rd one anyway) besides if an arguement is not based on anything, it will only be in someones imagination. in that case EVERYBODY is right 
posted on December 10th, 2005, 5:53 pm
one word for you... pillock. You believe in human intellect so much, yet believe nothing that any of those so called top scientists say
and besides when you are as big as a T-Rex you really dont need agility, seeing as how at full stride (something in the region of 25-30mph on uneven ground) you'll probably take whatever you run into with you.
mm yeah, because i've openly stated that i've abandoned scientific facts all over this forum. you know what, your argument is so tight, that i'd need a pin to pop your bubble. uhoh... it looks like i have one! since all we have left of the dinosaurs is a few sets of skeletons, almost none complete, all we can do is estimate creatures true body appearance, performance, and statistics. but since you are so wise, i bet you already knew that. it doesn't matter that species X pertaining to dinosaurs is more agile than humans, pretty much anything with more than two legs on this planet is more agile than a human, and they could could 1v1 beat us. by the way, agility isn't a measure of your jumping ability, since many creatures cannot jump, and yet still are quite agile. the definition of agility is:
Ability to start, stop, and move the body quickly in different directions.
Its unfortunate that your poor T-rex from your favourite movie, Jurassic Park, doesn't depict the real thing. T-rex's had incredibly stubby arms, that were useful for pretty much jack squat. They wouldn't rip cars or humans apart. So, they're limited to feet and mouth for weaponry. But if they use their feet, a human is squished into a pile of blood and bones, which provides a meal fit only for rats. Ergo, the only thing a T-rex could do is hope to bend down and catch a human in its mouth, and seeing as humans vs T-rex's agility is like comparing an ant to a jumbo jet, this would be incredibly hard to accomplish. and a T-rex could only target one human at a time, so that means if anyone were to die, it would be the oldest and the slowest, leaving the rest of the group to survive, and learn from their experiences. besides the fact, humans, of any time period, not just the past 4000 years, are incredibly wise, and know how to adapt to their surroundings. to avoid T-rex's, humans would simply habit caves, areas with mountains, deep thick forests. This limits the size of a beast that would pose a threat to humans, and it would provide many strategies for defense.
To support eufnoc's argument, humans would send runners. then they would learn to mount equines, and provide a much faster and safer travel. Its pretty clear just how easily a human population can spiral into extremely huge numbers. There would simply be too many humans for dinosaurs to kill us all. Some would survive, and those that did, would bring cruical information and evolutionary steps to the species, which would seal the victory for the Humans.
i can't wait for your rebuttal, no doubt claiming everything here is wrong, it should provide a good laugh.
posted on December 10th, 2005, 7:17 pm
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posted on December 10th, 2005, 8:46 pm
i can't wait for your rebuttal, no doubt claiming everything here is wrong, it should provide a good laugh.
Seriously...attacking someone like that, and putting words in their mouth, isn't going to prove your point, do you honestly think openly attacking someone in intelligent debate would get your point across? I'm 90% sure that they would ignore you, and no longer take your opinion seriously after a post like that
so why don't we lay of the subtle insults (which I commend you for, I have a talent for doing that too 
)and rude comments and discuss this like civilized humans?I havn't posted because I've been reading what everyone else says...personally I believe were far more intelligent than "cavemen", however not more able, (again, it's amazing how starwars fits so perfectly into everything) In KotOR II it was shown that a normal, non Force adept, human is much more capable than a Jedi because the Jedi and Sith completely rely on the Force. We rely on our technology, want to admit it or no, as basic as the technology as you want to describe, we depend on it. The "cavemen" without this technology were more capable, simple as that, able to do many things without technology makes them more capable because we rely on it so, sure we're able to do these things, problem is: we don't think we can, and we rely on things like "boyscout" training, which isn't going to help you in the long run, sure, you'll survive for a few days, what do you do for food in a Tundra? We would have no idea, because by definition, a desert is a place of barren land, extream temperatures, and little to no life. Certain parts of Alaska are technically a desert, so we couldn't survive, but the Inuit could...Hmm...
Civility comes with a price, a dependence on that civility, and when we find ourselves in an area where such civility is lacking, our base abilities are unpracticed and weak, however with our technology we can over come our friends without it to an interesting level. However, there are occasions where they would dominate, even with our technology...so we can't say one is stronger or smarter, because each of us have our own unique abilities that make the playing feild of life drastically to diffrent...
posted on December 10th, 2005, 8:53 pm
you are sooooo being ignored lords of kobol )
i am just wondering how many pages this thread will become
)i am just wondering how many pages this thread will become
posted on December 10th, 2005, 8:55 pm
*puts down 15 dollars* I say 10 pages at least 
posted on December 10th, 2005, 9:29 pm
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posted on December 10th, 2005, 9:34 pm
how much are you betting against me then Rhaz? Papa needs a new graphics card 
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mg: posted on December 10th, 2005, 9:39 pm
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posted on December 10th, 2005, 9:42 pm
What do you think all debate is? You honestly think opposing divisions are going to aknowledge the proof of another team? Come on now, that'd be far to smart for a debate, we're too busy yelling at each other and trying to disprove each other...
posted on December 10th, 2005, 9:44 pm
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posted on December 10th, 2005, 9:47 pm
Last edited by LordsofKobol on December 10th, 2005, 9:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
don't worry about me getting that Teh-Plaf me and you have a very similar sense of humor 
posted on December 10th, 2005, 10:57 pm
Actually now scientists think that T-Rex wasnt even a predator but a scavenger 
So I dont think that would be a threat to humans at all ^_^
So I dont think that would be a threat to humans at all ^_^
posted on December 10th, 2005, 11:18 pm
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posted on December 11th, 2005, 12:31 am
well i vote cave man. here a USA Commercial about cave man abuse.
why dont we tolk about thes movies i posted insted of geting to the pont wher the tread will need to be locked.
for get pass disagremets.
peace man! cant we all get along!
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